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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #144 on: Thursday 14 April 16 20:03 BST (UK) »
Hello dobfarm

Thanks.

George Hood of Morpeth, Wells Hood of York and George Hood of Selby, were not only businessmen in their respective places, but were public sprited.

Wells Hood, it seems was also a Councillor at York and George Hood of Morpeth are recorded at Public Meetings, supporting Election candidates and fighting for public causes and rights.

TNA, Kew, Cat. ref. IR 1/68 Duties paid on Indentures [Apprenticeships] - free pdf download (about pdf page 92), folio 46
3 Aug 1796 Edw'd Embleton, Morpeth Co of Northumberland, Butcher, Apprentice George Hood

Food, mainly drink as you rightly say, seems to be common amongst these Hoods!

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #145 on: Thursday 14 April 16 20:27 BST (UK) »
Noted:-

Newcastle Courant 14 April 1848
At Morpeth, on the 8th inst, aged 68, much respected, Mr George Hood.

I am not sure if the duty was paid, at the start, or end of his Apprenticeship (previous post above).

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #146 on: Friday 15 April 16 07:52 BST (UK) »
Hello All

I see Naval documents are on FindMyPast and our Library now has an FindMyPast
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=746309.0;topicseen

The only thing I recall, is my Grandmother speaking generally about the likelihood of a Hood Scottish origin and a debate was going on between my Grandmother and my other Grandparents as to the Hood origin, as my mother's parents had gone with us.

The other thing was Charity, the RNLI was and is favoured on the Hood side and Guide Dogs for the blind on my mother's side. We were always encouraged as tots to put a few pence of our tiny pocket money, into collections.

I see online there were Hoods at Seaton Carew and Hartlepool connected with the Lifeboat and Henry Hood won an award

http://www.hhtandn.org/venues/664/lifeboats

I'm suggesting a holiday to the Hull / Beverley area, I expect my wife will head for the shops!

Most of our Hoods have never followed the established church, so I would not be surprised to find dissent on the Hood side at Selby, with George being a bit of a charitable ringleader of dissent, whilst being cautious, but successful in business and treating people fairly.

I have traced a Hood relative, exchanged photocopies and he confirms that his father (my grandfather's brother) told him, we originate from Selby, hence my interest, with the 1717 and 1732 Hood graves in Selby Abbey and the M.I., at Thorganby.

An early 19th Century book lists Selby as a hotbed of religious dissent and the Church didn't like it. Some vicars even refused to bury infants dying in their parish and the parents and friends had to pay extra costs, to have them buried elsewhere, according to an old newspaper.

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #147 on: Friday 15 April 16 18:32 BST (UK) »
Forget HMS Victory and Nelson.

My father said, we were returning from I of W and he wanted to see Nelson's Ship, HMS Victory, Mark


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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #148 on: Saturday 16 April 16 09:30 BST (UK) »
Hello All

Signatures

Looking at the George Hood signature (on my avatar / icon, top left of each of my posts), from the 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson and comparing with the signature on the May 1815 Marriage Allegation and Bond of George Hood of Selby to Sarah Russel, it is my feeling that these are two different, but related George Hoods.

When their son, George Hood married Ann Marrison, on 6 December 1855 at the Parish Church of Selby, he was aged 32, a "bachelor", "farmer", residing at Selby.

Another property Memorial from Wakefield mentions George Hood widower, so we can rule out the son George, a "bachelor" marrying Ann Marison.

George Hood [married to Sarah Hood nee Russel in 1815] was a Cooper, who diversified into Brewing according to their marriage and childrens baptism documents and on George Hood's 1846 Probate, it says he was a Tanner and Brewer.

We know when Sarah Hood, nee Russel was baptised, as she is in the Register at Selby and her age matches exactly at death in November 1879, but her Death Certificate, also confirms she was the Widow of George Hood, Tanner deceased [whom we know died in September 1845 aged 60 and a "Tanner" on his Death Certificate] with the Probate the following year, confirming he was a Tanner and Brewer.

Looking at other property Memorials, it is my view we have a "George Hood" and a separate "George Hood of Selby Brewer" and as one Memorial said that one George Hood was a "Widower", it is my current view that a relation (probably the father) of George Hood who married Sarah Russel at Selby in 1815, was also George Hood.

Considering the George Hood Widower reference and looking at the signatures - May 1815 Selby Marriage Allegation Bond and the January 1838 property Conveyance Bridget Nicholson and Others to James Collinson, it is my feeling that whilst they have similar handwriting characteristics, they are likely two different George Hood signatures, as they end quite differently.

I feel we might be looking for another earlier George Hood (who owned a part share, or interest in the Selby properties, in Ousegate along with Nicholson; William Bowland; Abraham Hodgson; Edward Parker; Samuel Smith; George Smith; Wm Mitton and Hannah Carter Clark).

There is no reference to George Hood of Selby being Heir at Law to a George Hood in the 1838 Deed Memorial, so if my theory is right, the other George Hood was likely still alive in 1838 when the wheeling and dealing was taking place.

However, the Selby Land Tax, does not appear to support a second earlier George Hood being a property owner at Selby, but perhaps (the unknown) George Hood's share was in the name of one of the Others, in the Land Tax.

TNA, have told me the 1830 to 1837 Chancery Case will take two more weeks, before I get the scans, hopefully this might shed some more light on the matter.

Kind regards, Mark

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #149 on: Saturday 16 April 16 12:27 BST (UK) »
The George Hood widower 1838 Selby memorial deed with a seemingly different signature to your George Hood death 1845, married to Sarah nee Russel-(Hood) (or Russell) who was alive in 1838 to your George Hood the Cooper at marriage 1815 Selby. You say the memorial deed mentions no link as any heir connection your to George the cooper of Wren lane, later tanner, brewer and overseer of the parish poor in the 1830's

R Gibson the cooper Wren lane, Selby was advertising for trained coopers 1800 ish

Sarah (Russel) Hood died 1879 and George Hood her husband with trades as cooper, tanner, brewer, and some of their children from the marriage all not buried in Selby (all in reality buried where ??? over a 30 year period gap)

As I have said before Jane Hood age 65 1803 (Born  1738 ) at burial Selby wife of John Hood the mariner and a John Hood burial 1819 Selby no occupation given died aged 82 (Born 1737) seemed  by age possible grandparents of George Hood husband of Sarah (nee Russel ) Hood 1815 George aged 28 (Born 1787)

Therefore a scenario was the unknown history of George Hood the widower the son of John Hood born 1738 (poss -Scarborough ?) and said George the widower father of George Hood d 1845 husband of Sarah (Russel) Hood

dad
John Hood born  1737 died 1819 Selby

son
George Hood the widower (poss born 1765 to 1768)

his son George Hood b 1787 died 1845 a cooper/tanner/brewer and grandson of John Hood died 1819

(George Hood death 1848 aged 68 of Morpeth occupation booze maker and seller ruled out as 'George Hood the widower' as too young to fit this scenario)

The plot goes on and...........................on
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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #150 on: Sunday 17 April 16 08:41 BST (UK) »
Hello All

... 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson ...

Another property Memorial from Wakefield mentions George Hood widower, ...

I feel we might be looking for another earlier George Hood (who owned a part share, or interest in the Selby properties, in Ousegate along with Nicholson; William Bowland; Abraham Hodgson; Edward Parker; Samuel Smith; George Smith; Wm Mitton and Hannah Carter Clark).

There is no reference to George Hood of Selby being Heir at Law to a George Hood in the 1838 Deed Memorial, ...

Kind regards, Mark

A newspaper search using the names and their locations, given in the 1838 property Deed registration copy Nicholson and Others to James Collinson [full title Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson]

Re Smiths in the 1838 Deed registration copy - Samuel Smith of Armin and George Smith of Goole Surgeon, the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures, Farmer

The newspaper search "Smith of Armin" gives ...

London Evening Standard 6 May 1836
Apothecaries Hall.
Court of Examiners granted Certificates to

"George Nicholson Smith of Armin Pastures"

So when "George Smith of Goole Surgeon" qualifies, his full name was George Nicholson Smith, so the newspaper indicates the Smiths in the 1838 property deal were related to the Nicholsons, [possibly a marriage].

I'm thinking, if one of the "Others" the Smiths, conveying the property in 1838 with Mrs Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe, are now found to be linked to Nicholson, perhaps the others are related, including my George Hood.

"George Smith" and his brother are the third party, of nine parties ("George Hood" being the eight party) in the 1838 property Release. The Smiths were obviously related to Nicholson, as George Smith used the middle name Nicholson, when he qualified.

According to an old 19th Century book about Nancy Nicholson of Rawcliffe / Snaith, it mentions a Charity for educating children too, which I have only snippet read.

Samuel Nicholson, owned a vessel and was a Merchant, his son Samuel was an Innkeeper.

The copy Deeds at Wakefield are only summaries for registration of property. This research about one of the Smith brothers in the copy Deed and one Smith having the middle name Nicholson, are not mentioned in the copy Deed.

It seems Yorkshire families kept their property divided up into shares, or parts, amongst the family members.

I'm hoping the Nicholson Chancery case 1830, revived 1837, with the Bills and the three Answers, will shed more light on it and whether G.H. is related to one of the other parties.

Kind regards, Mark

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #151 on: Monday 18 April 16 03:54 BST (UK) »
Very vague long shot  but possible as mystery George Hood widower in deed memorials  ???

This George Hood b 1769 possible father of George Hood died 1845 if your George was born 1787 to 1790

George Hood     
 Birth Date     1769     
 Age     30     
 Spouse's Name    Mary Smith     
Spouse's Birth Date     1769     
 Spouse's Age     30     
 Event Date     25 Apr 1799     
 Event Place     York, England 

Need to see the actual Bond allegation forms for parish of residence of each of the marriage  intended couple (Kirby Hill, Ripon ?)

Also this above George (status at intent to marry-could be 1st time widower by 1799 going by his age 30 ) could have married (a first marriage say 1788) twice and still be a 2nd time widower by the 1830's

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Re: Re: George Hood Burial where? Died Selby, Yorks 18 September 1845 Part 3
« Reply #152 on: Monday 18 April 16 07:22 BST (UK) »
Transcript of the Allegation -

George Hood - 30 of Kirkby Hill
Mary Smith - 30 of Ripon

Intended venue - Ripon Collegiate, 25 April 1799 - can't see any parish records.
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