Two registrations .Can anyone explain

[Bookbox]

With the baptism it's simply two different sources for a single event.

The data in Ancestry's database England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 derives from LDS. A check of the LDS film numbers in the FamilySearch catalogue shows that one entry is from the parish register (Longton, film 1471087), the other from the bishop's transcript (Chapelry of Lane End, film 435797).

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Longton/StJohn/index.html
'Longton, St John was known as Lane-End church until the end of the 19th century and was a chapelry in Stoke-upon-Trent parish. It became a parish in its own right in 1839.'

So, one baptism, two records.

This is of course unrelated to the birth registration being double-indexed.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, looking at the original baptism, it would appear that the parish clerk has incorrectly put the abode as Potter and occupation as Lane End?
Keyboard86

[susie_angel]

Thanks for all that help, I shall have to have a copy of that certificate. The only thing that bothers me , do I put in a purchase for one or for two. Or is there an online siting of these documents? I would like to see the baptism where it states the father, I don t think they married.

I will chase up all those references ...

The big thing here is that if Georges parents had married, my surname would not of been Colclough.. !!!

[Bookbox]

I shall have to have a copy of that certificate. The only thing that bothers me , do I put in a purchase for one or for two. Or is there an online siting of these documents?

Birth certificates for England and Wales can't be seen online. You have to purchase a copy.

As explained above, there is only one birth registration. So there will be only one certificate. So you only need to place one order.

You have a choice of ordering from the GRO (£9.25) or ordering from Stoke-on-Trent Register Office (£10.00). You will get exactly the same certificate from both. I would advise ordering online from the GRO, as in this particular case it's simpler.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

When filling in the order form, you have to enter the surname and forenames exactly as they appear in the GRO index (even if they look wrong to you), or the GRO will not supply the certificate.

Oct-Nov-Dec Qtr 1839
HEMMINGS George Hemmings
Stoke-on-Trent
Vol. 17 page 157

The above reference is taken from FreeBMD and has been checked against the image of the GRO index page.

The GRO have not indexed the birth under COLCLOUGH, so you can't order it that way from them.

I would like to see the baptism where it states the father, I don t think they married.

If you want to see the baptism record, the image of the Longton/Lane End register is on FindMyPast, in their database called Staffordshire Baptisms, indexed as George HEMMINGS.

I hope the above is clear, but if it isn't please ask again. 

[susie_angel]

Thanks Bookbox, I realise they can t be seen online, I was confused with the double entry I found . I understand now how its happened.and I suppose how I could never find George. I think also that I will see what I can see with the baptism records. So thanks for that pointer.

Its intriguing and confusing ... would the GRO have been recorded much later? As that surname comes down directly to me...Colclough ...So Hemmings was ignored.

I shall have to do more research around George to fully accept him on my tree. Thank you all ... Great site !!

[groom]

Remember that you can call yourself whatever you like as long as there is no intent to defraud. Perhaps he was registered in his father's name, but if they didn't marry he became known as his mother's name and it just stuck.

Tracing my brother in law's tree, I discovered that his great grandfather was actually using the name of his step grandfather who he lived with in 1871. So my Brother in law's surname really has no connection to his family!

[susie_angel]

Hmm ... i m realising that the double barrelled  names single mums adopt now, is not so new. Glad he did though , I much prefer it ....