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Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« on: Friday 26 February 16 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I'm looking for advice on how to find record of my ancestor, Hannah Thorby/Tharby's birth/baptism in Malta in about 1814-1815. Her father was with the 14th Regiment of the Foot, possibly 2nd Battalion  but I'm not positive. On the 1841 census her birthplace is listed as Malta, but I've not been able to locate any records pertaining to this. I also do not know who her mother is, though I suspect she was from the Mediterranean (a lot of otherwise unexplainable Mediterranean dna from this side of the otherwise very British family). Any advice on where to look for these records or who would have produced them at the time? Would they be local church, military, etc.? I've checked findmypast for my Hannah and not found her.

Oh, I have her father, William Thorby/Tharby's WO 25/339 record of his service with the 14th and it doesn't say anything about his daughter. Would there be other military records I could locate that would give more detail on his service and possibly his family? He was with the 14th from April 1, 1809 - April 24, 1816.

Thank you,
Sarah
CUTMORE - Ware/Thundridge, Herts
PALLETT - Aston/Datchworth, Herts
FRANICS - Thundridge, Herts
TILLCOCK - Hitchin/Ware/Thundridge, Herts
WHITE - Standon, Herts
STAINES - Herts
THORBY/THARBY - Bramfield, Herts; Thriplow, Cambs
BARKER - Ware, Herts
BIRD - Ware, Herts
PETERS- Hertingfordbury/Hertford, Herts
WYLDS - Great Munden/Westmill, Herts
DAY - Standon, Herts
MYNOTT - Brent Pelham/Ware, Herts; Berden, Essex; West Wickham/Balsham/Horseheath, Cambs
WILKINSON - Ugley, Essex
SAVILL -Manuden, Essex

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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 February 16 22:21 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 February 16 04:40 GMT (UK) »
The 14th regiment [second battalion]arrived in Malta in June 1810.......the 14th left Malta in March 1814

14th (Buckinghamshire) Regiment, 2nd Battalion. Left 24th and 25th March, 37 Officers, 57 Sergeants, 49 Corporals, 19 Drummers, 990 Privates, to Italy
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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 February 16 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sarah

What rank was William, and did the army know him as Thorby or Tharby?

Ken



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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 February 16 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ken,
The WO 25/339 record I found for him lists his last name as Thorby. I'm not sure his rank, but I don't think he was an officer. I assume just a private?

Thanks,
Sarah
CUTMORE - Ware/Thundridge, Herts
PALLETT - Aston/Datchworth, Herts
FRANICS - Thundridge, Herts
TILLCOCK - Hitchin/Ware/Thundridge, Herts
WHITE - Standon, Herts
STAINES - Herts
THORBY/THARBY - Bramfield, Herts; Thriplow, Cambs
BARKER - Ware, Herts
BIRD - Ware, Herts
PETERS- Hertingfordbury/Hertford, Herts
WYLDS - Great Munden/Westmill, Herts
DAY - Standon, Herts
MYNOTT - Brent Pelham/Ware, Herts; Berden, Essex; West Wickham/Balsham/Horseheath, Cambs
WILKINSON - Ugley, Essex
SAVILL -Manuden, Essex

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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 February 16 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Ken - I spoke too soon. It looks like he was a corporal beginning in September 1815.
CUTMORE - Ware/Thundridge, Herts
PALLETT - Aston/Datchworth, Herts
FRANICS - Thundridge, Herts
TILLCOCK - Hitchin/Ware/Thundridge, Herts
WHITE - Standon, Herts
STAINES - Herts
THORBY/THARBY - Bramfield, Herts; Thriplow, Cambs
BARKER - Ware, Herts
BIRD - Ware, Herts
PETERS- Hertingfordbury/Hertford, Herts
WYLDS - Great Munden/Westmill, Herts
DAY - Standon, Herts
MYNOTT - Brent Pelham/Ware, Herts; Berden, Essex; West Wickham/Balsham/Horseheath, Cambs
WILKINSON - Ugley, Essex
SAVILL -Manuden, Essex

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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 February 16 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Is this Hannah in 1841?

1841 Census
Brantfield, Hertfordshire
James Pratt, 27
Hannah Pratt, 27
Elizabeth Pratt, 1
Catharine Cox, 4

If so living next door is;
William THORLEY, 68, Gamekeeper, and Elizabeth Thorley 68
William not born in County, Elizabeth born Ireland

Her Parents?

I did notice this Marriage on FreeREG;
5 April 1834, S Dunstan, Hunsden, Hertfordshire
William THARBY, Bachelor to Susan BUSH a Widow
A James PRATT was a Witness

A Brother for Hannah?

1841 Hannah Pratt is not born in County

I see Hannah Pratt remarried Thomas Tillcock 1847

1851 she is born Malta.

Trish :)
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Re: Malta - British soldier - baptism 1814-1815
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 February 16 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Trish - thank you, that's very kind of you to look up for me. I do have all that already, except I hadn't noticed that marriage before with James Pratt as a witness. I'll have to look into that. I'm really just hoping to find the record of Hannah's birth in Malta or information on who her mother was (Elizabeth would have been quite old when Hannah was born).

Thank you!
CUTMORE - Ware/Thundridge, Herts
PALLETT - Aston/Datchworth, Herts
FRANICS - Thundridge, Herts
TILLCOCK - Hitchin/Ware/Thundridge, Herts
WHITE - Standon, Herts
STAINES - Herts
THORBY/THARBY - Bramfield, Herts; Thriplow, Cambs
BARKER - Ware, Herts
BIRD - Ware, Herts
PETERS- Hertingfordbury/Hertford, Herts
WYLDS - Great Munden/Westmill, Herts
DAY - Standon, Herts
MYNOTT - Brent Pelham/Ware, Herts; Berden, Essex; West Wickham/Balsham/Horseheath, Cambs
WILKINSON - Ugley, Essex
SAVILL -Manuden, Essex