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James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« on: Friday 26 February 16 15:40 GMT (UK) »
James and his wife (?) Ryan are supposed to have immigrated mid 1850s and settled at Spring Creek (Puebla), Victoria.  I found this online reference file:///C:/Users/MM/Downloads/Post_Contact_Heritage_Assessment.pdf  to a James Gleeson with a 301 acre farm.

This is possibly James' death record (mother's name was Kirby)
GLEESON   
Given names James
Event Death   
Father's name Michael   
Mother's maiden name Alice (Kuby)   
Reg. year1876   
Reg. no1394

The 1876 death would appear to refer to a James Gleeson of Echuca, Victoria

DEATH. (Trove - Riverine Herald)
GLEESON.—On the 31st of December, 1875, at the
Town Hall Hotel, High-street, Echuca, James
Gleeson, formerly of County Limerick, Ireland,
in the 39th year of his age.

However, there are a number of other Gleesons buried in Echuca Cemetery and it would seem that James' wife was called Bridget. 

Can anyone find anything further on James of Spring Creek?

thanks



Blackburn(e) - Limerick/Tipp, Illinois, Victoria
English, Gleeson, Kirby, Conway - Pallasgrean
Knox - Inch St Lawrence
McGrath, Bourke, Ryan - Emly

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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 March 16 01:27 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage for James GLEESON to Bridget RYAN in 1859 in Victoria (reg 1686).

Then another for James GLEESON to Julia RYAN in 1862 in Victoria (reg 1517)!

Notably this was NOT the same James (unless he was a clever bigamist) as there were children born to each of these women at the same time and in different areas.

James and Bridget were in Echuca (so seems likely the one whose death you posted) and had 4 children:
James 1866
Ellen 1868
Margaret 1870
Mary 1873

Echuca is not that close to Spring Creek (now Graytown), especially in those days.

James & Julia were in Majorca/Timor/Maryborough/Chinamans Flat - even further away.

There are two further marriages for James GLEESONs born in Tipperary so perhaps a common name in the area: one to Johanna O'DONNELL in 1868 (reg 1617) and to Mary Anne DONOVEN in 1869 (reg 570). Plus two more in the 1880s...

Hopefully I have managed to post without breaking any rules or offending anyone :)

EDIT: The infant William GLEESON buried at Echuca 1886 was the son of Margaret GLEESON, father unnamed, so could be James' grandson. Ellen d. 1888 was daughter of Patrick & Mary.

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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 March 16 02:29 GMT (UK) »
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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 March 16 02:40 GMT (UK) »
I think you may have responded on the wrong thread cando


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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 March 16 03:02 GMT (UK) »
Thank you....was in the middle of typing up info for James at Spring Creek...

Will do it later

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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 March 16 03:41 GMT (UK) »
James and his wife (?) Ryan are supposed to have immigrated mid 1850s and settled at Spring Creek (Puebla), Victoria.  I found this online reference file:///C:/Users/MM/Downloads/Post_Contact_Heritage_Assessment.pdf  to a James Gleeson with a 301 acre farm.

This is possibly James' death record (mother's name was Kirby)
GLEESON   
Given names James
Event Death   
Father's name Michael   
Mother's maiden name Alice (Kuby)   
Reg. year1876   
Reg. no1394

The 1876 death would appear to refer to a James Gleeson of Echuca, Victoria

DEATH. (Trove - Riverine Herald)
GLEESON.—On the 31st of December, 1875, at the
Town Hall Hotel, High-street, Echuca, James
Gleeson, formerly of County Limerick, Ireland,
in the 39th year of his age.

However, there are a number of other Gleesons buried in Echuca Cemetery and it would seem that James' wife was called Bridget. 

Can anyone find anything further on James of Spring Creek?

thanks

Firstly these are the details from my resource for James GLEESON death mentioned in your post, bearing in mind that information on death certs is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant.

Death
GLEESON James
Father Michael  Mother Alice KUBY
1876  39 years  BORN GEELONG  Reg#1394

There may be more than Spring Creek town/locality in Victoria however as mentioned there was a Spring Creek which was the former name of Graytown.  The link on your post doesn't function.  Try this one

http://www.surfcoast.vic.gov.au/files/aab5b8c6-0f72-49c8-9959-a55c00e3a980/Post_Contact_Heritage_Assessment.pdf

You mention Spring Creek [Puebla] which is the name of a parish in the County of Grant.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-raa30-s160

Parish of Puebla
http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/103102


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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 March 16 05:02 GMT (UK) »
In the RC parish of Pallasgreen and Templebredin, County Limerick, 12th February 1833, the marriage of Michael Gleeson and Allicia Kirby of Linfield, witnessed by Michael Kirby and Maurice Kirby (right page, 5th entry down):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632760#page/178/mode/1up


 

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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 March 16 07:59 GMT (UK) »
GLEESON records in the Geelong district
http://zades.com.au/gandd/index.php/databases/gddbs

I would be surprised if James was actually born at Geelong c1834.  Perhaps he was simply from Geelong or married at Geelong.

His 1859 marriage certificate which you can purchase online [AUD24] and immediately download would help you as his parents including his mother's maiden name would be noted along with his age and place of birth.
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/

Information on all Victorian Certificates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

James GLEESON who died in 1875 has a probate file which has been digitised on PROV.
Often the download speed is very slow.

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

GLEESON James    Publican    Echuca    31 Dec 1875    14/901    VPRS 28/P0, unit 174;
VPRS 28/P2, unit 52; VPRS 7591/P2, unit 27

You could search for his possible arrival on the indexes at PROV
http://prov.vic.gov.au/research/ships-and-shipping

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Re: James Gleeson b c1834 Cappamore, Co. Limerick
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 March 16 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Echuca Cemetery records
http://www.echucacemetery.com.au/

I noticed that Bridget GLEESON was licensee of the Town Hall Hotel Echuca after James' death.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h8p/

Geelong Advertiser.  1862..license of the Yarborough Hotel tranferred to James GLEESON.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148904447

James was in Echuca by 1865 and in a spot of bother.  He is described as the publican of the Limerick Castle Hotel.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5734294

The Town Hall Hotel, Echuca built c1860 is now a restaurant on the corner of High and Radcliffe Streets.

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