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Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« on: Wednesday 24 February 16 14:12 GMT (UK) »
I have been chipping away at some family details since viewing the 1885 will written by Elizabeth (Eliza) Clements nee Agnew.  Daniel McGookin of Ballyboley was one of her executors, and since his mother was Martha Clements I am trying to determine if there is in fact a family connection or not. 
    I have learned that Elizabeth's husband was James Clements s/o Andrew Clements of Kilwaughter. They married 1850 and their ages (20 and 21yrs) are not consistent with Elizabeth's death (70 years in 1885). Also, James' brother, David Clements married Jane Crowe (sister to Daniel McGookin's wife Elizabeth Crowe). So that may prove to be part of the picture too.
  KiwiRose mentioned Elizabeth (Agnew) Clements' son, Thomas John Clements marrying Sarah Moore. I suppose I am actually hoping someone knows more about the father Andrew Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter.  Can anyone add to some of these details?
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 February 16 07:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi, a couple of bits that may be useful. I found a will on PRONI for an Andrew Clements who died 24 Jan 1885 of Lisnahuncheon, Antrim leaving his goods to wife Eliza Clements and also the notation of a will for Andrew Clements who died 1852 in Kilwaughter (no further info on this will available). There is also a will for a Thomas Clements of Headwood, Kilwaughter who died 2 March 1878. A brother perhaps??
As to Martha Clements, I have located 1 who is the widow. Martha wife of Robert Clements who died in Belfast 11 Jan 1866. Four births for Martha;

Births:
Martha Clements

bap. 24 March 1842 
parents: James & Elizabeth
place: Ballinderry by Moneymore, Derry

bap. 2 Nov 1862
parents: James & Mary
place: Ballymoney, Antrim

born. 16 Feb 1866
parents: David & Mary Thompson
place: Broughshane, Antrim

born. 23 Aug 1868
parents: William & Martha Sprott
place: Annahilt, Down

maybe one of these is yours??

also, if you look at the 1851 Ireland census for Kilwaughter, you will find several Agnew/Clements families. Hope this helps, Kim

In the freeholders records, in 1832, there is a listing for an Reverend Andrew Clements, Wellington St., Antrim. Could he be a relation?

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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 February 16 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Daniel McGookin of Ballyboley was one of her executors, and since his mother was Martha Clements I am trying to determine if there is in fact a family connection or not. 

Should it not be Martha (Clements) McGookin rather than Martha Clements widow of Robert?
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 February 16 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the additional details blemdookie.  I had found an 1851 Will notation for Andrew in Antrim, but was not aware of a death in Kilwaughter 1852.  That sounds promising.
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 February 16 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chipladdie,

I hope the following information will help you with your Kilwaughter Clements and lead you back to the father, Andrew Clements.

There is information on a David Clements in the book “Old Families of Larne and District” I suspect that this David may be a son of your Andrew.
OLD FAMILIES OF LARNE & DISTRICT
https://download.e-bookshelf.de/download/0000/8399/...0000839935...

David Clements, farmer, late of Craiganorne, Kilwaughter, who died on 7 June 1880 aged 62 years, is buried in the Kilwaughter Cemetery. Other members of David’s family, including a son Andrew, and some grandchildren are also buried there.

David’s will on Proni, granted in 1883 has sons Andrew Clement’s, school teacher of Kilwaughter and Alexander Clements, a farmer of Kilwaughter named as executors. 

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County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 February 16 03:37 GMT (UK) »
  www.discovereverafter.com/

Burial of an Andrew Clements. 1852 Old Ballynure Graveyard. Is this the Andrew that blemdookie found?

Old Ballynure Graveyard has an Andrew Clements who was lost at sea on an unknown day in May 1852 aged only 22 years.  There are a total of 19 Clements buried in Old Ballynure.

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County Antrim: Carrickfergus District: Irwin, McAllister, McNeil, Moore.
County Clare: Barrett.
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California: De Curtoni.
New Zealand: De Cartoni, Lofquist, Harding.

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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 February 16 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you KiwiRose, you may be right about the Andrew Clements lost at sea.  Also thank you for mentioning the book.  I have checked it out and it seems a younger Andrew Clements and his brother David Clements were ministers in the Presbyterian Church in the 1950s in Ontario Canada. They apparently attended school at Craiganorne.  So I will follow up on that.  I appreciate your comments and details.
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 February 16 22:49 GMT (UK) »
from http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/antrim/tithe-applotments/kilwaughter-parish.php#.VtImlcfHQ5Q
Clements, Andw Townland: Headwood Year: 1834 is explainable I think .
Clements, Jno. Townland: Headwood Year: 1834 needs sorting out I think?
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Re: Clements of Headwood Kilwaughter
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 February 16 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Yes I have seen that too, thank you.  At least we have a date. As for John Clements, I have found he is the father of several sons with similar names to Andrew's, so possibly a brother......?
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