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Offline Guy Etchells

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 February 16 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Whilst I understand the process of adding both maiden and married names to the register...I have one entry where the lady in question remarried in 1944 after losing her first husband in the second world war...however, her two sons have the surname of their Father who was still alive in 1939 but their Mother's married name is crossed out and replaced by her second husband's name...this could be misconstrued as it appears as though it is her maiden name and that she isn't married to the Father of the children.

I too have many absentees...but I can be patient as it is a great resource to have at your fingertips  ;D

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The inference would only be made if the person making such assumption does not understand the reason for the 1939 National Register and the reasons why and how it was updated.

For the period between 29 September 1939 and 22 May 1952 the 1939 National Register was a register for ID Cards and also at first ration books.

After 1952 it became a register for the workings of the National Health service alone (no ration cards, no ID cards) and therefore it was not so important to record names accurately.

During the war period it was very important to record people accurately, if a woman changed her name on marriage her ID card and Ration book would have to be updated, if her children did not adopt their stepfather's name (as many didn't) it was important that their names were recorded accurately as well.

The register was never about making moral judgements whether children were legitimate or not but simply a means to accurately identify and supply rations to the population.

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 February 16 09:21 GMT (UK) »
This is what I cannot find ...

A few weeks ago I found (in the free preview) my grandmother, father, uncle + another lady with her single name, her first married name & second married name.

This lady married my uncle (2nd marriage). I was chatting to my cousin & told her I'd found her mum at that address in 1939. She was a bit surprised so I went back to have another look to show her - only to find cousin's mum is no longer listed at that address, but with her parents instead (which is what we would have expected to find). And my grandmother is just listed with my father and uncle  ???

So what did I see the first time round? ;D

I'm happy to wait till my library gets its access to FindMyPast in April to open the records.

But am I going mad?!

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 February 16 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Ration books were still being issued in 1949 I think?  I think I was given one in 1949.
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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 February 16 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Rationing ended July 4, 1954. You can see a ration book for 1953-54 at https://talkaboutbletchley.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/tighten-our-belts/

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 25 February 16 12:49 GMT (UK) »
There should be a discount on the subscription for those of us who submit corrections. Every time I do it I resent doing their work for them . . . for free ::)

I must have sent a dozen corrections already to the 1939 Register. I only bother at all because it might help other genuine researchers, but it annoys me that a commercial organisation relies on volunteers to do all its proof-reading :-X

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 25 February 16 15:48 GMT (UK) »
There should be a discount on the subscription for those of us who submit corrections.

I think the problem with that is people would start sending spurious corrections giving the firm more than a little extra work to sort the wheat from the chaff.

I used to send corrections to Ancestry when they first started but gave up when it started taking longer and longer for them to apply them
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 25 February 16 16:03 GMT (UK) »

I think the problem with that is people would start sending spurious corrections giving the firm more than a little extra work to sort the wheat from the chaff.

I sued to send corrections to Ancestry when they first started but gave up when it started taking longer and longer for them to apply them

An additional problem is people already send "corrections" when the transcript is accurate.

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 25 February 16 16:15 GMT (UK) »

An additional problem is people already send "corrections" when the transcript is accurate.


True but that could be because they have not read the guidelines for sending corrections ie you should be commenting on the accuracy of the transcription and not on the fact reported in it eg if the record says great aunt Gertrude was 37 then that is what should be transcribed despite the fact you know she was 87.
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: 1939.....amazing what you cannot find
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 25 February 16 17:20 GMT (UK) »

I think the problem with that is people would start sending spurious corrections giving the firm more than a little extra work to sort the wheat from the chaff.

I sued to send corrections to Ancestry when they first started but gave up when it started taking longer and longer for them to apply them
An additional problem is people already send "corrections" when the transcript is accurate.

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Guy

The spurious corrections problem never occurred to me, being the innocent soul that I am  ::)

Corrections where the transcript is accurate but the information is wrong work better on Ancestry, where they add alternate information, leaving the original transcript intact . . . 'though obviously they really mean alternative  ;) ;D

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