White family Battersea, Surrey, England

[Kelly/Parker]

I am having a bit of trouble I have got Peter White born 1819 Battersea and Sophia 1819 born Marden Kent I have them on 1841, 1851, 1871. Can't find them on 1861 cencus. Have tried leaving out surname to see if it picks them up under a different surname but no luck. They had children Henry 1842, George 1846, Emma Eliza 1848, Edward 1850, Mary Ann 1852, John 1855 all born Battersea. On John's son's birth certificate (Henry Alexander John) his father is John and on cencus details he appears as John but when I followed up his mother's name Georgina Cresswell it gave the Banns of Marriage as Georgina and Henry John. Because of this I haven't been able to trace a birth or christening for John or Henry John (1855 by cencus). This seems strange as he has several other siblings and I have managed to find Christenings for all of those in Battersea St. Mary. Any ideas welcome.

[DavidG02]

Just having a look.

I noticed different addresses from 1851 to 1871 . 1851 was 2 York Tce and 1871 was Lavender Rd Battersea

I will keep looking

[Lily M]

The Henry John who married 1872 claimed to be over 21.   If he had been born in 1855 he would only have been 17.

[DavidG02]

I looked in the same manner you did and couldn't find anything. I looked all over the country. I was going to look in Australia - thinking they left after 1851 and returned before 1871 but out newspaper site is down for a few days so I couldn't.

[Lily M]

This is very confusing.      As you say, on the censuses he claims to have been born c.1855

Interesting that he appears to have signed the wrong name to begin with on his marriage certificate.

[lizdb]

I would say the crossed out bit on the marriage cert is the same writing as the rest of the cert, my guess is that the vicar started filling in Henry's name there, then crossed it out and gave pen to Henry to sign!  It doesn't seem to be the same writing as the signature, so I am not convinced he did start signing a name and then crossed it out and signed again.

1881
94 Gaunt Road
Battersea
John 26 stoker factory bn Battersea
Georgina 25 bn Gloucester Painswick
Georgina 8
Henry 3
Alfred 1    children bn Battersea

So here John is saying he is a year older than Georgina
She was 20 at marriage in 1872, he was "full age", so at least 21
That would make her born 1852 and he born 1851!
But age in census works back to 1855 for him and 1856 for her, but that would have made her very young at marriage
I think maybe they have forgotten to move their ages up a year during some of the intervening years!

[lizdb]

I see in 1891 John is 38 and Georgina is 35

So that makes John approx. yob as 1853

[Kelly/Parker]

It certainly is a frustrating one. Sometimes when I have had this problem of a missing cencus I have been lucky by putting all the details in except the surname and it has picked it up misfiled under another surname. It may come to light one day, I will keep looking too.