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Offline Nikita1985

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Why can I only find a baptism record?
« on: Friday 19 February 16 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

Just wondered if anyone knew why I can locate a baptism record but not any other record?

For example; I have come across a baptism for a Sapphire Holland (b.1896) and a Seped Holland (b. 1909) both in Derbyshire, however, there is no other record relating to these individuals IE; No Birth/Death/Marriage.... nothing!!

Very puzzled... Can any shed any light?

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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 February 16 12:53 GMT (UK) »
The 1896 baptism entry for Sapphire Holland doesn't have a father's name, just that of the mother Mary Ann Holland.

Have you tried looking for a marriage for a Mary Ann Holland - perhaps she married and Sapphire took her step-father's name?
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McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 February 16 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible that they were baptised in Derbyshire, but born outside of the county?  Perhaps is it possible that they were not born in England/Wales  at all?   Perhaps they were not babies when they were baptised?  Perhaps their births were registered with a different surname?

Have you looked for their births  http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBFP-TJR

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBXJ-17R



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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 February 16 12:57 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Sapphire might be the Sophia on freebmd Jan Feb March quarter 1896 Derby 7b 728.

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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 February 16 12:59 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Sapphire might be the Sophia on freebmd Jan Feb March quarter 1896 Derby 7b 728.

Mike

My thoughts too - was just going to post  ;)
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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:05 GMT (UK) »
I thought the same, say both names and they are very similar...
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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone, I'll look into that... it is actually possible that they took a different surname as Mary Ann (in my tree) did not marry until AFTER having all her children, so there was no father on any of the birth's.... they we're all given her maiden name. So I shall have a search under the surname 'Allwood' for these individuals. And also... Sophia rather than just Sapphire!

Sometime you just need a fresh pair of eyes to look at it!

Thanks everyone!

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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Seped shows parents as Henry and Mary Ann.

There is a Wilfred, March quarter 1909 and an Alfred in June quarter 1909 - same endings  ???

Your last post has confused me re Mary Ann. Do you have your lady with any children in 1901 and 1911?
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Re: Why can I only find a baptism record?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:55 GMT (UK) »
From the "mis-spelling" I'm thinking that the parents didn't pronounce the name as I would, e.g.
"So-fee-a", but pronounced their baby's name as "So-fire-a", which is how my grandmother pronounced her name.  Her father, born 1853, was of German origin and I'm presuming that's how it was said over there at the time.
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