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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 25 February 16 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - just a bit confused! Are we talking about the real HJL here and not your grandad?
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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 25 February 16 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Sorry isobelle! yes the real HJL! Sorry ,its confusing isnt it! I do so wish he hadnt "borrowed: a name!

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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 25 February 16 19:27 GMT (UK) »
I dont seem to be having any luck finding Henry Jesse Lovell Isobelle pre 1927,he was meant to arrive in NZ around 1920 but havent found him anywhere. I wonder if Timaru Seaport was a destination if he was at Mt Peel in 1927.Any ideas would be welcomed!

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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #75 on: Friday 26 February 16 03:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Alan re photos and training for the sea info. I have phoned Geraldine Museum re school photos for my father so I can post them up and hopefully someone may think they recognise family likeness to HJL,wishfull thinking maybe but worth a try like you say.Unfortunately I cant get them for a couple of weeks as the person who scans them is ill.Can you think of where I should look in NZ for this illusive man please? Ive searched so many avenues Im running out of options! Im wondering if he used a different christian name and kept the Lovell surname.He cant just appear out of thin air ,he must have begun his new life somewhere? Ive messaged several UK groups today for photos in the army ,so crossing fingers there!


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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #76 on: Friday 26 February 16 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello again.

The only advise I can give from 36 years of research is nothing ventured, nothing gained. Plant your seed where ever you think it may get you a result, and wait for a harvest. Search engines like Google bring together people, in a way that was impossible when I started.

In about 2000, when I wanted to take some research into Siberia I obtained a separate email address because of spam,[ before the days of emphasis on personal computers having 3rd party spam protection]. Good thing I did, because some very objectionable spam was soon coming my way, but also a 17 page scientific paper [in Russian] I was looking for. Translating proved to be out of my budget, so an English / Russian dictionary was obtained, and I achieved some time later, a translation of sorts, only to learn that an Incorporated Society I belonged to, had the ability to handle the 5 or so differing keyboard translations. Then last year on a NZ beach I got talking to a foreigner only to discover that his best mate, through his TOMSK University years, was married to the Universities Librarian who went out of her way to help me find the Russian paper. Had I known the guy at the beach, he could have translated for me.

I placed possibly 20 or more toll calls throughout NZ trying to locate the five farms a man on a tour of discovery took photos of in 1954, before going blind. He told me the regions he visited, but for the life of me, I could not place the farms with the photos, until I learnt, in casual conversation, that a social colleague had worked as a youth, in one area of interest. He put me in contact with a farmer who was able to solve my problem. Plus fill me in with the background history.

Do not panic, nor loose heart, just give it time and hopefully some day someone will hand you a key to help unravel your mysteries.

- Alan.
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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #77 on: Friday 26 February 16 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Alan,its easy to lose heart when you cannot find someone! He was my Grandfather  and I should know about him,I wont rest easy until I have found him! Its very frustrating not to have found him in NZ other than Geraldine area and Mt Peel. Ill put his photo up in his band uniform once I know how! Thanks for trying .

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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #78 on: Friday 26 February 16 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Simple as.

For this forum I believe the size limit is about 400 or 500 Kb in a number of pictorial formats. jpg being one of the common ones. Therefore you may have to crop the outer edges of your photo to reduce it's size, or crop even further to a portrait image if very high resolution. And save as with a new title. You can also crop to just capture any COLOURS he may be wearing etc on a uniform and save as with a new title. I usually just add RC to the title so I know I'm getting the image I want to attach.

When ready to post just click on the ATTACHMENTS BROSE icon left bottom below your forum reply text box, and then brose to the file you have your saved image in. Click on that and it will be uplifted and attached to your  thread reply.

The images do not have to be attached to this thread if you want the photo and uniform specialists to comment [therefore start a new thread on that forum] or be posted on a forum of an other country or region on RC.

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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #79 on: Saturday 27 February 16 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

As Olwyn experienced trouble trying to load to large a photo file, I have undertaken to do it for her.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742665.new#new

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Re: Illusive Grandad! Henry Jesse Lovell
« Reply #80 on: Saturday 27 February 16 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Olwyn,

I've just read through your very interesting thread. Wow what a mystery!

I just wanted to comment that the middle name Jesse is, in my opinion, unusual. It seems to me that your Grandfather didn't pick these names at random.
I notice that the real Henry Jesse Lovell had 2 older brothers  - as posted by Minniehaha.
Is there any chance one of them used their deceased brother's name to vanish??  The eldest has a year of birth that would tally with the year of birth your grandfather went with 1880 .
I only ask because I have a similar scenario with an ancestor who 'disappeared' from Scotland and later turned up enlisted in AIF 1915 using his brother's middle names as his name.

Long shot I know . *undecided face (icons not working since Windows 10 upgrade !)

Good luck,

Looby