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WW1 Service Record Help
« on: Wednesday 17 February 16 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

I am having some trouble interpreting the writing on a WW1 service record for my gt grandfather, would anyone be able to help me please?

I know it says he was in the 53rd Sherwood Foresters and in the ajoining paperwork I have says he was a desserter at some point in 1919/1920. (He uses the name 'Harold Allwood' for this WW1 enlistment)

I know he later re-enlisted under his real name 'Frederick Holland' into the R.A.M.C in 1925 and re-engaged again in 1929, and again after that, eventually being called up for service.

Any help would be appreciated! And any ideas as to why he used an alias upon his very 1st enlistment in 1918?

Thank you!
Nikita

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 February 16 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Under age, or maybe didnt want family to know ?

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 February 16 15:01 GMT (UK) »
This is the other part to it....

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 February 16 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Are you sure Allwood was an alias, he has his sister down as next of kin and her surname is Allwood
too,but maybe if she was married he has used her married name as an alias.
Which part of the documents are you having trouble reading.
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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 February 16 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi yes I am pretty sure as he and his not wife record themselves as allwoods in the 1901 census even though they don't marry and become allwoods until 1918. My Gt grandfather's dad was Henry Allwood but he didn't take his surname at birth as he was illigimate  so he was given his mother's surname 'holland'. That's the surname I still carry today. It is all very confusing but I am pretty sure he used an alias unless he had a brother I know nothing about that was given his dad's surname despite his mother not being married. Hope this makes sense!!

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 February 16 11:02 GMT (UK) »
What I can read of it:

12 9 18  Examined by Posting Board
             45th Reception Deport
Translated Cat A mobilized Derby 11 9 18
Posted 53rd ???? Sher Fors  Derby 12 9 18

Next of Kin Sister Mary J Allwood
Grate Place, Darley Lane
Derby

reverse side
16 7 19  O/C unit  [struggling here!] ?Proceeded on enlistment          field    16.7.19  DO's No16
                                                      furlough & struck off strength                        dated 19/7/19
                                                      accordingly

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 February 16 11:24 GMT (UK) »
The regiment is the 53rd YS bn Sherwood Foresters, the YS stands for young soldiers.

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 February 16 12:02 GMT (UK) »
The second form written part looks like

In civil custody   pte   9-7-20
Military custody      10-7-20
Tried at Blackdown 17-8-20 and sentenced to 84 days detention

1.Deserting His Majesty’s Service
2.Losing by neglect his regimental clothing and necessaries. Placed under stoppage of pay until he has made good the value of £12 - 1 - 3 3/4

Confirmed by G.O.C. 6th Infantry Bde. 25-8-20
? 28 days detention remitted
Sentence promulgated 27-8-20
Absent from 29-1-20

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Re: WW1 Service Record Help
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 February 16 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if this is your Harold Allwood, but on the 13 Feb 1919 the Derby Daily Telegraph reports that Absentees - Ptes Harold Allwood and Hector Archibald Wain were each committed for 7 days by Derby Borough Court