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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 12 July 23 22:58 BST (UK) »
Hi all I’ve read through the thread and had a question: a few people had said that it was indicated on the medal card that the medals were returned. The only document I have of my 2x great grandfather is a discharge certificate which at the top has a Class A and Class B badge with the number of the badge underneath. It doesn’t say if it was returned or not. I’m wondering if this is even the proper paperwork to determine that or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Edit: actually I don’t think it will matter. I see on the form you need to provide a death certificate which we don’t have :/ nobody knows what happened to him past the mid 1940’s.

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 18 June 25 23:10 BST (UK) »
It would be interesting to see what the medals look like. I saw a pair of two medals that were issued in the 2000's to a lady whose father had served in the Great War. Their naming was not in the style of Great War medals and the Allied Victory medal had a crude tubular piece of metal to support the suspension ring. The ribbons were of a modern type, nothing like those of the Great War.

It is interesting to know that the MOD issues such medals, potentially that could mean a large amount of work for themselves.

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #101 on: Thursday 19 June 25 08:35 BST (UK) »
Hi all I’ve read through the thread and had a question: a few people had said that it was indicated on the medal card that the medals were returned. The only document I have of my 2x great grandfather is a discharge certificate which at the top has a Class A and Class B badge with the number of the badge underneath. It doesn’t say if it was returned or not. I’m wondering if this is even the proper paperwork to determine that or not. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Edit: actually I don’t think it will matter. I see on the form you need to provide a death certificate which we don’t have :/ nobody knows what happened to him past the mid 1940’s.

I think you will find a British Service "Badge" is not a medal.

On my Grandfather's RAF Certificate of Discharge we have, he was awarded a badge at qualification and this was stitched on his uniform. Generally, some badges were metal and pinned to uniform, or go through a hole, with a retaining clip behind. 

These Badges are on a Canadian forum
https://www.cdnmilitarycollectors.com/t844-ww1-cpf-class-a-and-a-class-b-badge

I once downloaded a Medal Card for a relation by marriage from the TNA, Kew website, but his Medal Bar had a lot more than those listed, but he was in two wars.

War is a nasty business (seeing best mates die) and regarding some WW2 Personnel (never asked WW1 Personnel), they or their next of kin never applied for their Medal entitlement. Some medals ended up in house clearances and several families of ex WW2 Servicemen have told me that they binned their medals because they wanted to forget what they had seen.

However, if any Medals were never issued, I believe you will also need to prove you are next in the MoD line of entitlement to be the applicant.

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #102 on: Friday 20 June 25 17:41 BST (UK) »
It would be interesting to see what the medals look like. I saw a pair of two medals that were issued in the 2000's to a lady whose father had served in the Great War. Their naming was not in the style of Great War medals and the Allied Victory medal had a crude tubular piece of metal to support the suspension ring. The ribbons were of a modern type, nothing like those of the Great War.

It is interesting to know that the MOD issues such medals, potentially that could mean a large amount of work for themselves.

Here are some photos of the 2 medals (British War Medal & Victory Medal) I managed to get reissued by MoD - see my original 2016 post.
Wood(s) – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors & Sawley (orig. W.Yorkshire 1841)
Thornley, Heyes – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors
Emmett – Lancashire/Chorley, Blackburn
Nightingale, Livesey, Warburton, Gorton – Lancashire/Blackburn, Darwen
Kilshaw - Lancaster
Mahoney – Oswaldtwistle, Ireland
Brennan – E.Lancs., Tipperary

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #103 on: Friday 20 June 25 17:44 BST (UK) »
Part 2.

Here are some photos of the 2 medals (British War Medal & Victory Medal) I managed to get reissued by MoD - see my original 2016 post.
Wood(s) – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors & Sawley (orig. W.Yorkshire 1841)
Thornley, Heyes – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors
Emmett – Lancashire/Chorley, Blackburn
Nightingale, Livesey, Warburton, Gorton – Lancashire/Blackburn, Darwen
Kilshaw - Lancaster
Mahoney – Oswaldtwistle, Ireland
Brennan – E.Lancs., Tipperary

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #104 on: Friday 20 June 25 17:45 BST (UK) »
Part 3.

Here are some photos of the 2 medals (British War Medal & Victory Medal) I managed to get reissued by MoD - see my original 2016 post.
Wood(s) – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors & Sawley (orig. W.Yorkshire 1841)
Thornley, Heyes – Lancashire/Clayton-le-Moors
Emmett – Lancashire/Chorley, Blackburn
Nightingale, Livesey, Warburton, Gorton – Lancashire/Blackburn, Darwen
Kilshaw - Lancaster
Mahoney – Oswaldtwistle, Ireland
Brennan – E.Lancs., Tipperary

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #105 on: Saturday 28 June 25 12:22 BST (UK) »
We received my wife's g.grandfather's WW1 medal set from M.O.D. five years ago as he never claimed them.They currently await mounting,and have been in their cases since issue,but despite not being overly/carelessly handled,are showing signs of tarnishing.Is the metallic content of these medals as per those issued originally? and can anyone tell me how best to clean them and prevent further discolouring? Any help would be gratefully accepted.(If this post doesn't fit the scope of the forum please feel free to delete.)
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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #106 on: Saturday 28 June 25 12:56 BST (UK) »
They will tarnish  if handled without gloves, exposure to sunlight and air. Read the instructions on the following website on how to care for them.


https://www.doncaster1914-18.org.uk/resources/caring-for-your-family-history/looking-after-medals/

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« Reply #107 on: Sunday 29 June 25 09:59 BST (UK) »
They will tarnish  if handled without gloves, exposure to sunlight and air. Read the instructions on the following website on how to care for them.


https://www.doncaster1914-18.org.uk/resources/caring-for-your-family-history/looking-after-medals/
Thank you Jebber for your response.
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