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Offline JenB

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:19 GMT (UK) »
the father appears to be the informant [and maybe he was reluctant?]

What do you mean by your statement that the father 'appears' to be the informant? The certificate should contain the name and 'description' of the informant, i.e. Joe Bloggs, father.

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:24 GMT (UK) »
If this is a baptismal record there would unlikely to be an 'informant'
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Since rodc says it refers to a birth in 1852, it is quite possible the birth was not registered.

It sounds as if  the certificate referred to, was a certifcate of birth issued by the church years later, as proof of age, possibly for a pension.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Also under the requirements of the 1836 Registration Act the registrar would not omit the mother's name, although the father's name could be omitted. After all the mother is always known even if the father is not.

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:08 GMT (UK) »
One of the documents acceptable as proof of age for the Old Age Pension, under the Old Age Pensions Act 1908, was a certificate of baptism.
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I think all we can do is be patient till rodc comes back on line, and hopefully answers the questions.

He has said it is a birth cert, yet refers to parishes that have no relevance to a birth cert. MAybe it is a baptismal certificate.

But all guesswork, till we get more info!


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Also under the requirements of the 1836 Registration Act the registrar would not omit the mother's name, although the father's name could be omitted. After all the mother is always known even if the father is not.

Presumably the exception being a foundling?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:49 GMT (UK) »
 ??? Thoroughly lost.

Tried to put 2 and 2 together from past posts. (and probably failed ;))

Just wondering if the cert in question is for:
Baptism of Henry Challiner:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ61-HN5
(born Nantwich 1852 according to FreeBMD)

Marriage of James and Ann (her surname on FreeBMD is SINKER)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F351-S94

Baptism of Ann- Image on FindMyPast says illegitimate daughter of:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7J3-5L8

Oh well.

Maureen

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 13 February 16 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Also under the requirements of the 1836 Registration Act the registrar would not omit the mother's name, although the father's name could be omitted. After all the mother is always known even if the father is not.

Presumably the exception being a foundling?

Obviously  :)

Stan
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