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Offline JenB

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:32 GMT (UK) »
scrolling thru common room archives [page 4] i found an interesting post by op snowball 05/01/16 on same subject, so see many answers there.

The thread you mention related to the mother's name missing from an 1814 baptism entry, not from a birth certificate.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738178.msg5843153#msg5843153
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:48 GMT (UK) »
the father appears to be the informant [and maybe he was reluctant?]
place of birth is in the adjacent parish to the parish that the church baptism is recorded.
its a township perched on the edge of the center of the parish where that parishes church is located.
Now I don't know if a marriage was preformed at that church between ggf #2 & ggm # 2 since the records are not available to me for cost reasons. From what I have thus far developed, the likelihood of a marriage having taken place seems doubtful at best - and I can add that many other parallel lineages stemming from this, all have had great difficulty in determining the identity of ggm # 2, to the extent that there are several contenders all dutifully supported by some unprovable assertions that this is she named so and so.
Well that just isn't so. From the coded entries in the church register margins [explained by the transcriber as seen above] that record ggf # 1's baptism we can find the guilty female.
Her family moved from the place of baptism [ the margin mark indicates this] and she was found in the adjoining parish as a child.
Hope that helps - I'm doing this alone, so no good asking for the other parallel lineages since there's toooooo much dissension  and who am I to change what is?

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen B,
thanks for the wakeup! I hadn't realized that but many of the answers there could possibly apply so I'll take what I can get and mull over it until a light flashes!

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:54 GMT (UK) »
I don't think you've actually answered the question of where this baptism took place  :-\

Without knowing the place and religion then it's hard to say for sure but many early baptism records only record the name of the father so you've need to check to see if this is the case here by looking at other baptisms around this time in that register.
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Rodc, your  post is quite complicated.

If you are able to post the details someone might be able to help. Travelling around unnamed and unknown parishes is quite difficult.

Why is the woman guilty?
Why is the man reluctant yet is the informant?
Do you mean he is not the father but has been persuaded that he is?
It's odd and difficult!
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 13 February 16 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I am completely lost!

Have we established if the document is a birth cert or a parish record of a baptism?
Or when and where it took place?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:08 GMT (UK) »
The thread you mention related to the mother's name missing from an 1814 baptism entry, not from a birth certificate.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738178.msg5843153#msg5843153

Many thanks to JenB for posting the link to four pages about this same topic  :-\

Really no need to waste our time by starting a new topic which isn't even clearly written, questions aren't answered, etc.  ::)
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:09 GMT (UK) »
The thread you mention related to the mother's name missing from an 1814 baptism entry, not from a birth certificate.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=738178.msg5843153#msg5843153

Many thanks to JenB for posting the link to four pages about this same topic  :-\

Really no need to waste our time by starting a new topic which isn't even clearly written, questions aren't answered, etc.  ::)

No, that was a topic started by someone else completely. However, it was the one which rodc referred to in reply #7 as having relevance to this enquiry.
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Re: ommission of mothers name
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 13 February 16 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, didn't read the whole thread as this one was so confusing  :-[
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