Henry Davy/Davey death circa 1852 Australia? (possibly SA, VIC or NSW)

[juliaanna1701]

The problem I have with Henry, son of Charles and Ann, is that he's a tailor and he's not going to survive in Aust. Oh wait, he didn't.
I think SA was desperate for miners and I got the impression from reading the news article that that's what the men on the Sibella were selected for.
On the other hand, can't find him in the 51 census.

I know it doesn't mean it is the truth, but on the marriage cert from ELIZABETH DAVEY + RICHARD HENRY EDWARDS the occupation of HENRY DAVEY is listed as miner though - not tailor though but with the gold rush anyone became a miner. Would a tailor really be first choice for selection for mining to send to SA? Or VIC for that matter, as that is where the family ended up.

[juliaanna1701]

I've also noticed that of the 15 children ELIZABETH DAVEY + RICHARD HENRY EDWARDS had not one is named MARY/ MARY ANN - bad feelings between mother + daughter perhaps?

[cando]

Are your reading all the posts and the links?

Feedback would be appreciated even if it is a thank you.

You can't base research on assumptions.

Cando

[juliaanna1701]

Are your reading all the posts and the links?

Feedback would be appreciated even if it is a thank you.

You can't base research on assumptions.

Cando

Sorry Cando yes I am reading all posts and trying to keep up. I didn't realise that I wasn't thanking everyone enough - so thank you everyone now and in advance for all of your help. I have previously read the shipping diaries of the 'Sibella' and I appreciate you checking the DAVEY grave that I had found. I appreciate very much your help and I am sorry I have not been thanking everyone each time for their postings

[cando]

Are your reading all the posts and the links?

Feedback would be appreciated even if it is a thank you.

You can't base research on assumptions.

Cando

Sorry Cando yes I am reading all posts and trying to keep up. I didn't realise that I wasn't thanking everyone enough - so thank you everyone now and in advance for all of your help. I have previously read the shipping diaries of the 'Sibella' and I appreciate you checking the DAVEY grave that I had found. I appreciate very much your help and I am sorry I have not been thanking everyone each time for their postings

A general thank you is simply common courtesy.  We are all volunteers trying to help you.

Cando

[cando]

I know that MARY ANN went on to Marry WILLIAM HENRY LUKE on 01 OCT 1853 in Castlemain, Victoria. I do not have the certificate so cannot verify that she is a widow, but marrying again so soon after giving birth makes me think that Henry died.

Or the child was Wm's .

Back to your original request to find the death of Henry DAVEY.

I wonder who gave the consent or witnessed this marriage...

Father's names were not recorded on South Australian marriage registrations until 1857.  It would appear that Henry may have been alive in Feb 1852.   

WILLIAMS John Henry 22 years  Status single  Father unrecorded
DAVEY Emma  16 years  Status single  Father unrecorded
13 Feb 1852
At the residence of Mr Davey Reedy Creek  Ade 10/46
 
Cando

[majm]

I have spent a number of hours looking through my offline resources for NSW for an adult Henry DAVEY (or Davy)  in any location in NSW 1848-1853.   I have not yet found him.   I know I have said this earlier, but as far as I can determine, it is the date that Mary Ann gave as his date of death when marrying in Vic that needs to be the next piece of information to help us all help the quest.   

NSW BDM website allows for wildcard for surname and for a range of dates for the search.  So, if we had the date of death, we could use the wild card and say a week either side of that given date and look at all the available index entries there for their Early Church Records holdings.  The subject heading includes SA, VIC or NSW 

Cheers,  JM

[Essie]

The first of nine WILLIAMS children born in SA to Emma Mary nee DAVEY was at Tungkillo, some born at Kanmantoo, and the youngest at Yelta near Moonta.  So John Henry WILLIAMS was also a miner.

Essie

[juliaanna1701]

I have spent a number of hours looking through my offline resources for NSW for an adult Henry DAVEY (or Davy)  in any location in NSW 1848-1853.   I have not yet found him.   I know I have said this earlier, but as far as I can determine, it is the date that Mary Ann gave as his date of death when marrying in Vic that needs to be the next piece of information to help us all help the quest.   

NSW BDM website allows for wildcard for surname and for a range of dates for the search.  So, if we had the date of death, we could use the wild card and say a week either side of that given date and look at all the available index entries there for their Early Church Records holdings.  The subject heading includes SA, VIC or NSW 

Cheers,  JM

Thanks JM,

Does that mean that even if he didn't die in NSW they would hold the record? It is pre federation, but as far as I can see the family never ventured (or at least stayed) in NSW - but again that is pure speculation going off the facts. Would you recommend purchasing MARY ANNE SMITH'S marriage to HENRY LUKE in 1853 cert or her death cert from NZ? And also, does the fact that ELIZABETH DAVEY + RICHARD HENRY EDWARDS were married by a Weslyan minister mean anything at that time? They would then be non-conformists back in cornwall, yes? Just trying to get everything clear.

And thanks to the help from Cando + Essie, much appreciated your help in my search