Sea captain John Andersson from Sweden.

[ThomasW59]

Hello.
My great grandfather´s father´s uncle with the name Johan (John) Andersson settled in Middlesbrough England sometimes between 1850-1900. In my greatgrandfather´s book, he mention his father´s uncle visiting their home once in Kungshamn Sweden. If his name is mention in England, it most be in connection with Gothenburg, where he studied sea navigation. He was member of the methodist church in Middlesbrough and sailed as far as to Black Sea with for example oil. I can imagine it was a cargo tall ship, not sure. His elderly brother Anders was born 1826, he could been born around 1830-35.
If someone know anything about him, or where else to look, it would be highly appreciated. I have already contact Methodist church in Middlesbrough, and they dont know anything so far.

Thanks, Thomas W.

[99phil99]

The John (Johan) Andersson you are looking for could be a John Anderson who is in the 1861 Census of England. He is living in the village of Norton in County Durham which is just North West of Middlesborough. He is described as John Anderson, occupation Seaman , born in Sweden, age 31 (so his date of birth would be 1830.)
He is married to a woman named Susanna Atkinson and they appear to be living with her parents William and Susanna Atkinson . John and Susanna have a 1 year old child named William.  Susanna Atkinson married John Anderson in 1858.
In the 1871 Census Susanna is married to John Mason, son William Anderson is with his mother and stepfather. Susanna married John Mason in 1865 so it is likely that John Anderson died sometime between 1861 and 1865. There is a death record for a John Anderson in Stockton in 1862, Stockton is just west of Middlesborough and I believe is the registration area for the village of Norton.
This may not be your John but at least worth eliminating or investigating further.
Hope this is a start for you
Phil

[2zpool]

John Anderson married Susanna Atkinson registered Stockton in 1858.  If you get his marriage your will find who is father was and his occupation, most likely Anders something.  If you can tie his father's name with some of the names you have with rough birthdates the Swedish records are a dream come true to family historians-like yearly census with birth dates, and where, marriages, etc.

I doubt there were many Lutheran churches in England as that was the state church of Sweden so most likely Susanna's was.

BTW Susanna's second marriage to John Mason was at West Hartlepool Christ Church and she was a widow, age 25, father William Atkinson a tanner by trade.

Janis
grandfather from Sweden

[ThomasW59]

Thank you so much, Phil and Janis, for your response.
The likeness is almost spot on; date of birth, name, occupation, and living place. I so wanted it to be true.
The town in the west-coast of sweden from where he was the church burned down with all the books of records, which make it hopeless to find any roots on this side of my family-tree.
If my great grandfather write in his book about a visit from a ageing sea captain Johan Andersson, the time would be 1889-1890 and that would rule out this John Anderson settled in Stockton. And you, Phil, find the death records to be of 1862, which unfortunately halted my hopes.

I truly appriciate your reply. Thomas

[jamcat95]

Hi Thomas

Have you found anything of your great grandfather and family in Kungshamn, dates, marriage etc?
I presume you have checked out the Swedish Church Books. There are some records online. I can take a look if you want.

Regards
Ian

[ThomasW59]

Do someone over there in England have the oppertunity to look into this person mention in Captains registers of Lloyd´s of London: 

ANDERSON, John b.Gothenburg 1842 C87239 London 1870 (1871 vol.16)
 vol.1 1871-1873; vol.16 1876

The Lloyd's "Captains Registers" are now held by London Metropolitan Archives.

jamcat95, I think that the only records of him would be in England, since the local church from where it supposed he was born, burned down with all information 1600-1900.

I can find roots back to Scandinavian Jarls 1200 century, through other relative, but a recent existing uncle is like 'gone with the wind'.

Thanks and take care, Thomas

[jamcat95]

Hi
Yes, true, but Arkivdigital have a number of records to go through from Kungshamn, including censuses, births and deaths. Worth a try.  I have a subscription.

Which parish did he come from?

Ian

[ThomasW59]

Hello Ian.
I have looked through a partly restored census called "KUHAM", meaning Kungshamn. Only Johan´s brother Anders Andersson´s date of death and his wife and children is mention. Anders Andersson, which is my ff ff f, whereabouts is rather unknown. No one amongst my living relatives know anything except for what is in my grandfather´s book. I think Johan, Anders and their parents are from parish closer to Norwegian border.
What I try to search for is the mentioning of Anders wife, Karolina Johannesdotter b.1831, coming further north of Bohuslän - Hamburgsund.

Ian, you said you have subscription. Do you have family connections to west coast Sweden?

[jamcat95]

Do you have family connections to west coast Sweden?

I have no connections from the west coast apart from the fact that I know the area pretty well. We go there every year for a weekend on holiday.

Can you give me some dates and parishes for Anders and family please. I need to have a starting point.


Ian