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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #324 on: Friday 09 June 17 04:00 BST (UK) »
It says somewhere that it is particularly good for getting information for folk who were adopted - I don't quite understand the logic of that - if you don't know who your natural parents were and they are deceased anyway - what good would it do?

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I am sorry to say that despite all I have read on here I cannot see how it is relevant to someone who doesn't know who they are exactly because of adoption.

That's the very point you're missing!!!

How do you think Police are able to confirm whether their suspect is the correct person  ???

I personally don't know much about DNA but as an e.g.....

If I thought my next door neighbour was a child of one of my own relatives & we both took a DNA test then we would have overlapping coincidences (that's my term for likenesses) in our DNA profiles which would confirm we were related.

We would of course have to work out which relative was the father of the neighbour as DNA can't determine EXACTLY who you descend from.

Your theory is very mind boggling as you have already been given true factual instance from shellyesq  ::)  ;D

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #325 on: Friday 09 June 17 04:14 BST (UK) »
As for your previous post, re people being  "deceased anyway" - of course they are!  Otherwise there would nobody doing genealogy and familiy history

Time for you to walk in someone else's shoes perhaps.

Well put Jeanne!!! & for the latter 'Dead Men's Boots' would be appropriate I think  ???  ::)  ;D  :P

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #326 on: Friday 09 June 17 10:17 BST (UK) »
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #327 on: Friday 09 June 17 10:39 BST (UK) »
I think really useful for people that were adopted out and need to find anything about their origins.

I have a friend who was surprised to see a high percentage of Romanian ancestral DNA, her Grandfather being of unknown name/origin. She is very different to the people in the community she grew up in. Now we can see why. Fascinating. We might never know his name.

As for my own DNA, ancestral DNA means nothing to me. All our paperwork is pretty clear, if other races have slipped in anywhere it just makes me a better person genetically speaking as we have far too much of one country in our DNA.
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #328 on: Friday 09 June 17 12:33 BST (UK) »
Sue/Dean1, maybe you can understand why some of us, especially anyone who is adopted, doesn't understand your view.

You are adopted, you discovered your birth family (whether or not you wanted to meet any of them), and you have done the family tree of your birth family - with the help of members of your birth family.

Others seem only to want the same thing. :)

Hi; Of course "others seem only to want the same thing" - perfectly natural that you want to know who you really are.
Once you have your original birth certificate (which I acquired rather late in life) it is reasonably easy to trace the family tree - it is then exactly the same process as for those who are not adopted - it is, of course, unfortunately, more difficult to confirm if natural relatives are all deceased.    I never wanted to meet my birth family except for my half brother - he, unfortunately, had been killed in a road accident so I never did get to meet him but, who knows, maybe he wouldn't have wanted to meet me.  The person who helped me was his wife and what a lovely lady she is. 
One of the big things I found whilst researching my natural family is that I felt guilty - guilty towards my adoptive parents who most definitely would not have understood my reasons for doing so.   They were not happy when my sister turned up .............coincidentally her name was also Susan!  Sue
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #329 on: Friday 09 June 17 12:45 BST (UK) »
Sue, you may not realize that what applies in England does not apply everywhere.

In the US (unless something has changed very recently that I don't know about), people do not have access to their original birth certificates, and they are not given parent information. The records are simply sealed. In Ontario, Canada, where I live, it was only a very few years ago that new rules were made to give adoptees that access, and the rules are not retroactive.

In any case, a birth certificate anywhere might not identify the father, and you can't do your father's side of your family tree if you don't know his name.

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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #330 on: Friday 09 June 17 15:14 BST (UK) »
(Sighs) STILL trying to "un-notify" myself of new posts in this topic.... tried again.... still keeps popping up in "New Replies".
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #331 on: Friday 09 June 17 15:39 BST (UK) »
I might have found how to do it! When it comes up as a new post there is the option to ignore topics. I've ticked the box so I'll see if that works.

Answer this, then send me a PM to tell me you've done it and I'll let you know if I get a notification of this topic.  ;)
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Re: The Times wants your views: DNA ethnicity results
« Reply #332 on: Friday 09 June 17 16:10 BST (UK) »
Okay, let's see if it works ... just got time before we both set off on that time-warp express!
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