Grant

[Rosinish]

All the birth certs. should have both parents & date/place of marriage

Do you have all these?

Annie

[jennywren001]

On the Canadian 1911 census there's a nephew in tow with the Grants. He's called Hector Grant born about 1885 - only one Hector Grant showing in Scotland for 1901 born around that time and he's the son of a Hector Grant born Ilsay about 1855.

Brothers John Grant aged 25 and Hector Grant aged 17 can be found on the 1871 census living 104 Craighill Street, Maryhill - their occupations tie in with the 1901 census. Wonder if John is Hector's half brother?
Jen

Edit:If this is the correct birth it looks like John was Hector's brother - mother in law is conveniently with the family in 1851.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTJQ-WM9

EDIT:Just adding older post on this family:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=541124.18

[anne_p]

I was looking at the Ancestry tree link provided by Monica.

I am certain that John Grant and John Ferguson is the same person.
The addresses link up
I think he was his mother's son, born before she married William Grant.
His baptism in Kilchoman 1845 states his parents were William GRANT and Catherine Ferguson but, he has over 3yrs old when he was baptised.

His name on all census returns is Grant but he married  in 1875 as John Ferguson.
The witness to this marriage was Hector Grant who is believed to be his brother.
All John's children were apparently born as Ferguson ( perhaps to reflect the marriage) but were all known as Grant.

[abydos]

Hi everyone

I do have birth cert. for all the children. Listing parents as John Ferguson and Catherine McEachien.
John Grant (my grandfather) Married Margaret Mundell.  his wedding cert has his parents listed as John Grant and Catherine McKeachnie.  On Feb. 4 1937 after finding out his birth cert read Ferguson my grandfather legally changed his name to Grant. It is weird that my great grandfathers mother's maiden name was Ferguson.
I just looked at my grandfathers birth cert. his parents where married 1875 Dec. 28 Maryhill District.
Hector was a cousin to my grandfather.
Margaret my grandfathers sister came to Canada with her girls to join her husband Alexander Campbell.
Oh the headache lol this has been. 

[abydos]

I do have a tree on Ancestry.  It is the Grant family tree by Abydos   If having a look at it will help please do.

[anne_p]

Abydos,
It's not weird that your great grandfather's mother was Catherine Ferguson.

What is weird is that throughout his life, John used the name of Grant.
Why did he marry as Ferguson? Why were his children born as Ferguson yet known as Grant?

On the 1875 marriage he states his father was William Ferguson a ( Ploughman), yet at the time, "Father" William Grant was  a Distillery Labourer

Lastly, I know you have attached the OPR baptism for John b 1841 on Islay to your tree.
This is a collated OPR which has been produced some years later.
It cannot have been created in 1841 because 2 of the children are showing as baptised in 1845 and 1846


One way to clarify if John Ferguson/Grant was born inside a marriage  is to locate the birth of the youngest child born to William Grant and Catherine Ferguson.
Their date and place of marriage should be recorded on the birth cert.

[abydos]

Hi Annie

I just pulled all the birth cert. and the information on all is the same.

[anne_p]

Abydos,
I'm referring to the children born to William Grant and Catherine Ferguson.
The birth record for their youngest child should provide the date and place of THEIR own marriage.

EDIT:
I see it.
Daughter Catherine Grant b 1866.
states parents William Grant and Catherine Ferguson were married in Jan 1843.
Son John was born in 1841.
Im certain that William Grant was not his biological father

[anne_p]

I now see  William Grant and Catherine Ferguson marriage banns in Polmont, Stirlingshire are dated Jan 1840.
 John Grant's 1845 baptism states his DOB was 1 Sep 1841
His paternity problably isn't relevant but it's fairly clear that John Grant and John Ferguson is the same person