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« on: Sunday 31 January 16 20:57 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information about Annie Grant born Jan 4, 1889, Maryhill Glasgow and her sister Mary, born Dec. 24, 1886.  Their birth cert. list the last name Ferguson. But in the census they are listed as Grants.  This goes for all their siblings.  Their parents names were John Grant (1841-1924) and Catherine McEachren (1856-1924)
In 1901 the family was living at 33 Bardowie St. Maryhill Glasgow.
Their parents and 4 of the other siblings came to Canada in 1907.  One other sister, Catherine stayed in the UK and married Henry Campbell.
Any help would be great.
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Re: Grant
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 February 16 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi, this is a puzzle. I looked at the death record for John Grant in Canada and the informant on it is William Grant son of John. William says that John Grant's parents are John Grant & Catherine McEachren. These two are who you are saying the parents of Ann, Mary & Catherine are.
Looking about I found a marriage for a John Ferguson & Catherine McEachren on the 27 December 1875 Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. In the 1881 Scotland census I found:

1881 census-Cambusnethan, Lanark
John Ferguson  age 42  born 1839 Wishaw, Lanark   occ: iron moulder
Catherine Ferguson  age 36  born 1845 Shotts, Lanark
John Ferguson  age 11  born 1870 Shotts, Lanark  son
Ann Ferguson  age 8  born 1873  Shotts, Lanark  daughter
Catherine Ferguson  age 4  born 1877  Shotts, Lanark  daughter
Marion Ferguson  age 9 months  born 1880  Shotts, Lanark  daughter

1891 census Cambusnethan, Lanark
Andrew Colquhoun  age 53  born 1838 Tollcross, Lanark  occ: iron moulder
John Ferguson  age 21  born 1870 Shotts, Lanark  occ: iron moulder  son
Donald Ferguson  age 7  born 1884  Shotts, Lanark  son
Marion Ferguson  age 10  born 1881 Shotts, Lanark  daughter
Catherine McLean  age 60 born 1831 Islay, Argyllshire  housekeeper

** note the 3 children have Andrew Colquhoun listed as their father in the 1891 census

1891 census Scotland-Glasgow

Ann Ferguson  age 19 born Glasgow  occ: cleaner in the Glasgow Royal Infirmary

Catherine Ferguson  age 14  born Glasgow  occ: steam loom weaver  listed as niece living with the McIntyres


If you look at the1901 Scotland census it says that Catherine was born in Islay, Argyllshire just as Catherine McLean was in 1891 census which leads me to believe that it is indeed Catherine in the 1891 census with her children. What I'm wondering is could John Ferguson have died sometime between William's birth in 1892 and 1901 and perhaps Catherine remarried to John Grant who adopted her children???  It seems odd that a. the children were born Ferguson & called Grant with same dad  b. why would John Ferguson become John Grant after the children were born??  c. the places of birth & occupation is different between the 2 men which leads me to believe they are indeed 2 separate men. Hope this helps,  Kim

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Re: Grant
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 February 16 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
That 1901 family appear to be living at New Keppochhill Road, Barony, St Rollox, Lanarkshire in 1891.
John Grant Head 46 Distillery Lab Argyllshire
Catherine Grant Wife   35 Argyllshire
Maggie Grant 14 Message Girl Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John Grant Son 12 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Catherine Grant 10 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Donald Grant 6 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Mary Grant 4 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Ann Grant 2 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
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JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Grant
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 February 16 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Jen, there is also this possible 1901 family here. Children all show as born in Glasgow:

John Grant 60 Labourer In Distillery b. Islay, Argyleshire
Catherine Grant 48 b. Islay, Argyleshire
John Grant 22
Kate Grant 20
Donald Grant 16
Mary Grant 14
Annie Grant 12
Willie Grant 9

Address 33 Bardowie Street, Glasgow/Maryhill

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Re: Grant
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 February 16 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica,
I think that's the family mentioned by Abydos in her opening remarks?
Jen
Edit - sorry Monica you were just making things transparent -it's been a long day  :)
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Grant
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 February 16 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Seems to be. Just found this a/try here http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/25740139/person/12805808505/facts

John Ferguson/Grant's mother was Catherine Ferguson it seems. Original image for marriage included along with lots of detail.

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Re: Grant
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 09:33 GMT (UK) »
I'm well confused. The John Grant who died 1924, Belville, Ontario age 77 was supposed to be born in Inverness to a John Grant and a Catherine McEacheron. That is unless the son William provided the wrong information at the time of his father's death.
Jen
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Grant
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 10:57 GMT (UK) »
William says that John Grant's parents are John Grant & Catherine McEachren. These two are who you are saying the parents of Ann, Mary & Catherine are.
Looking about I found a marriage for a John Ferguson & Catherine McEachren on the 27 December 1875 Barony, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. In the 1881 Scotland census I found:

1881 census-Cambusnethan, Lanark
John Ferguson  age 42  born 1839 Wishaw, Lanark   occ: iron moulder
Catherine Ferguson  age 36  born 1845 Shotts, Lanark
John Ferguson  age 11  born 1870 Shotts, Lanark  son (pre marriage)
Ann Ferguson  age 8  born 1873  Shotts, Lanark  daughter (pre marriage)
Catherine Ferguson  age 4  born 1877  Shotts, Lanark  daughter
Marion Ferguson  age 9 months  born 1880  Shotts, Lanark  daughter

1891 census Cambusnethan, Lanark
Andrew Colquhoun  age 53  born 1838 Tollcross, Lanark  occ: iron moulder
John Ferguson  age 21  born 1870 Shotts, Lanark  occ: iron moulder  son
Missing are Ann 1873 & Catherine 1877..........then a gap in years
Donald Ferguson  age 7  born 1884  Shotts, Lanark  son
Marion Ferguson  age 10  born 1881 Shotts, Lanark  daughter
Catherine McLean  age 60 born 1831 Islay, Argyllshire  housekeeper

** note the 3 children have Andrew Colquhoun listed as their father in the 1891 census

I think some b certs. are needed  ???

Annie

EDIT.......gap not too big as I notice now Donald & marion are in wrong order
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Grant
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 13:06 GMT (UK) »
I assumed that John Ferguson and John Grant was the same person.

However
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Their parents and 4 of the other siblings came to Canada in 1907.

John Grant and his wife Catherine arrived in Canada 30 Mar 1907 aboard the Corinthian.
Destination was Bellevue, Ontario, but there were only two children in the party.
22 yr old Donald and 16 yr old Willie.

The 2 other children  who also emigrated to Canada, must have travelled separately