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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Which brother was in the USA - have you found an obituary for him  ???  Just wondered if it might mention Herbert  ???

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 February 16 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello Sandra
Herbert Rowland Hamilton was born on the 3rd Sept, 1892 in Walworth, Surrey (south London) the
third of seven sons to Arthur Ainslie Hamilton and Ada Jane Rogers. Arthur was a compositor (printer).
The family lived around the area until just after 1900 when they returned to Hove Sussex where
Arthur had been born and reared. Another child a girl was born in 1904 and Ada then died followed
by the child. The boys were scattered and 4 ended up with a Maskell family where the householder
was a China and Glass repairer (master). Herbert Rowland Hamilton was apprenticed to him and
became a Master.  He was still in the area of Hastings Sussex in 1921 with his wife Alice Phyllis Burleigh. He had lost a business due to ill health and went to prison for passing a cheque when he
had no funds but was busking on Brighton Beach to raise them. He then disappears along with Alice.
His brother Lesley Arthur was sent to Canada as a child migrant, fought in WW1 and then brought
back a wife and migrated to the USA where he ended up in Salem, Oregon.  He had two uncles in
the US. William Herbert Wentworth Hamilton was a Mining Engineer and registered inventor, who
lived in Parker, Baker, Oregon, California, and Sulpher Springs, Arizona.  He had three wives and
at least five children. I have the details of these three people, but I do not have any cemetery
details.  I have found about three possible death notices for William H. W. and sent for one but
it was not correct.  I can't find the families (other than Lesley) on immigrations material.
Any information gratefully received.   Jill in Oz

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 03:35 GMT (UK) »
This appears to be William Herbert Wentworth Hamilton ....................

FIND A GRAVE

William H Hamilton - 3 April 1863 - 1934

Burial Mount Hope Cemetery  Baker City Baker County Oregon.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=138340650&ref=acom

William Herbert Wentworth Hamilton, Born April 1863 in 22 Western Street, Brighton, Sussex, passed away Feb 11 1934 in Baker, Oregon.

http://www.tribalpages.com/family-tree/robertshistory

If you require additional information on people buried in Mount Hope, please contact the person listed at the bottom of this link

http://www.oregongenealogy.com/baker/mount_hope_cemetery.htm

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 06:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much Sandra.  No progress on Herbert Rowland Hamilton but to find the grave of
William Herbert Wentworth Hamilton in Mt Hope Cemetery, Baker City is a great bonus as I
have been chasing his death notice for years. I will now try and apply for his Death Certificate
in the hope of further information on his families.  I have applied for a photo of his gravestone.
The Roberts/Hamilton link is known to me. Paul Roberts and I have worked together on the
Hamilton family and he has my detailed history.
I have joined the Find a Grave site, and hopefully will have more wins.
Regards
Jill in Oz


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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 16:41 GMT (UK) »
No progress, just nibbling  ;) 

BMD recorded 3 births records in 1892 for Herbert Hamilton (March 1892 Chorlton) , Herbert Otho Hamilton (Eastbourne September 1892 - passed away 9 November 1915) ) and Hamilton Rowland Hamilton (December 1892)

There is a possible death record which might fit Herbert - not sure if you have looked at this one before  ???

Herbert Hamilton born 1892 and passed away December 1974 - Fulham London - Vol12 Page 0756

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 February 16 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Thanks Sandra,

Yes - I too do a lot of nibbling.  I know that the Chorlton Civil Record for Herbert Rowland was the
correct one and have the Cert. for that and his vaccination record which gave me his birth date.
I have the Fulham 1974 index record but didn't call it up as I have done with so many others
in a wasted exercise, as I can't find him anywhere between 1921 and 1974 - and what happened
to Alice!?!  I have tried divorce records etc too.  All odd.  Probably should get the death record
and be done with it.  Herbert Otho Hamilton Eastborne does not seem to be one of mine.

The thing that has saved me with this family is the constant use of second and often third forenames which are often quite distinctive. The William Herbert Wentworth Hamilton whose
burial record you found is a classic example and apart from Alfred Seymour there is another
brother who went to Chile who was Walter Frederick Exuperius Hamilton!?! but I suppose that
was typical of an educated Schoolmaster and his Schoolmistress wife in the 1860s. William
Hamilton the father of this brood married Louisa Charlotte Wentworth, a Schoolmistress,
but thats another story.

Appreciate your knowledge and your help.

Thanks

Jill in Oz

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 04 February 16 02:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

I cannot get the Death to come up that you quote for Herbert Hamilton, d 1972 in Fulham,
on Freebmd. Could you please clarify.

Many thanks

Jill in Oz

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 04 February 16 03:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

I cannot get the Death to come up that you quote for Herbert Hamilton, d 1972 in Fulham,
on Freebmd. Could you please clarify.

Many thanks

Jill in Oz

Sandra's post said 1974 in Fulham.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Herbert Rowland Hamilton- did he migrate to Canada
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 04 February 16 03:22 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Jacquie

Thats what I thought I had typed.  Can't get him up on Free BMD at any time in the 1970s.

Jill