Author Topic: SChool Records Taranaki  (Read 4330 times)

Offline DeniseBS

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
SChool Records Taranaki
« on: Saturday 30 January 16 06:28 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year to All

I have been trying to find school records for my grandfather for a number of years with no luck. We are pretty sure he went to Ellerslie Primary School, Auckland. This seems likely as his foster parents lived in Great South Road, Ellerslie and we did find his foster brother there. However, no one seems to know where the records are for this particular time period 1897-1907. The school told me that NZSG had them and NZSG told me the school had them. Round in circles.

I was trying to find out what his previous school was and when he started at Ellerslie. He was supposed to have been in Taranaki with his mother before being put with a foster family in Auckland (the birth place of both of them). So I want to confirm this and also find out where and when.

Has anyone had any luck with records for Taranaki primary schools in this time period? I can't find anything specific on Archway to say they are in the Wellington Archives office.

Thanks

Denise

Offline Janette

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,259
  • Good night Kiwi
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 January 16 07:10 GMT (UK) »
Auckland archives have  records for Ellerslie

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ItemAdvancedSearchResults.do

Cheers Janette

Offline Beg Clonrode...

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 89
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 January 16 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Apropos Janette :)

If you type "Ellerslie School" into the Archway search box you'll find the school records from 1880 to 1940-ish.

For example...

Ellerslie School - Primers 1-2, Standards 1-6  1899
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22112149

The records are held at Auckland Archives but have an orange restriction. Not too sure what will be entailed in ordering/viewing them.

Not sure if the records hold the "Register of Admissions, Progress and Withdrawal" or just examination results. Either way you can search them for your grandfather's name which should determine if he attended that particular school.

----

Reasonably sure the NZSG have done a fairly comprehensive indexing of available school records.

You could ask for a look-up on the NZSG CD as several rootschatters have a copy of it and are happy to do lookups.

Regards
Beg

Offline DeniseBS

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 January 16 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janette and Beg

Thanks for your responses. I am not totally sure as it was too long ago, but when I found the foster brother, the years when I thought my grandfather would have been there were not among the records in Auckland Archives for Ellerslie Primary School. He certainly was not on the indexes I looked at, hence why I was reverting to looking at all the Taranaki schools around the Stratford/Eltham area. Mind you it is always worth checking again, if only I could get back up to Auckland.

I have NZSG Index V5 and Ellerslie is not on that, neither are many Taranaki schools, it would appear.

Still hoping someone has some knowledge of Taranaki School Records as I am handy to Wellington Archives if they are there. Although a search on Archway did not produce anything.

Denise :)


Offline Beg Clonrode...

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 89
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 January 16 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: DeniseBS
I have NZSG Index V5 and Ellerslie is not on that

Hi again...

I was thinking more of the NZSG Kiwi Index Vol 1 CD which the blurb says has "more NZ School Records to 1916". This CD came out a few years after the NZSG Vol 5 CD.

Still think you should ask for a CD lookup. If you want to keep your grandfather's name off the board just say you'll PM the name.

---

Quote from: DeniseBS
Still hoping someone has some knowledge of Taranaki School Records as I am handy to Wellington Archives

If you type THETARANAKI into the Archway "Simple Search" box

then click "GO"

then click "GO TO ASSOCIATED RECORDS"

...you can see the Taranaki Education Board records held by Archives.

They're mostly at Wellington Archives.

Here's one Stratford School register...

Series 14 - Admission Registers - Closed Schools - Denbigh Road - 1896-1939
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18849849

---

If you want to know roughly where in Taranaki the schools are located here's an 1897 AtoJ which might (or might not) help.

Scroll way down to Table No.8 - Page 20

http://tinyurl.com/ztzzxcm

Regards
Beg

Offline kiwihalfpint

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,913
  • Women and Cats will do as they please
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 January 16 19:02 GMT (UK) »


I was thinking more of the NZSG Kiwi Index Vol 1 CD which the blurb says has "more NZ School Records to 1916". This CD came out a few years after the NZSG Vol 5 CD.


All the information on the first CD will be the same on the latest CD, it is just an upgrade with additional information added.


Cheers
KHP
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline DeniseBS

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 January 16 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for the links Beg. The list of schools is a good to have and I can start working through the closed ones to eliminate them.

I can get access to the Kiwi Index Vol 1 and I am pretty sure I looked at it when it first came out, with no luck.

Cheers

Denise

Offline Beg Clonrode...

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 89
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 January 16 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: kiwihalfpint
All the information on the first CD will be the same on the latest CD, it is just an upgrade with additional information.


Hi KHP...

Not what I heard (even though I'm not a NZSG member so have never owned or used either CD so what do I know :)

NZSG Vol 5 contains a lot of info that was not allowed to be copied over to the Kiwi Index.

Likewise the Kiwi Index contains a lot of new info that had been transcribed since Vol 5 was released.

The two CD's are complementary rather than Kiwi superseding Vol 5... although, as I said, that's just what I've heard.

----

Quote from: DeniseBS
We are pretty sure he went to Ellerslie Primary School, Auckland [...] we did find his foster brother there.

Hello Denise...

So are you saying you've found and viewed Ellerslie School records for your grandfather's foster brother.

If so, do you have a record of these records. I'm curious as to what they are (e.g Form No.20 - Class List, Form No.19 - Examination Schedule etc).

To be honest, I'd say the pretty comprehensive Ellerslie School records held by Auckland Archives are the only ones surviving from 1897 to 1907. If you've searched them and your grandfather isn't mentioned then I'd say he didn't attend that school.

Regards
Beg

Offline kiwihalfpint

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,913
  • Women and Cats will do as they please
    • View Profile
Re: SChool Records Taranaki
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 January 16 04:22 GMT (UK) »

The two CD's are complementary rather than Kiwi superseding Vol 5... although, as I said, that's just what I've heard.


Beg, you are probably right .... I shouldn't listen to Chinese Whispers when at the library.


Cheers
KHP


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk