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robert holdaway
« on: Wednesday 27 January 16 23:03 GMT (UK) »
evening all ..
im researching my 5th great uncle who was born here in england but in 1831 was transported to sydney via the Eleanor
he worked for a Dr Harris when reaching sydney but nothing is known of him after that
was he married ? did he have children in Australia( he had children here in england with his wife but they never sailed out to be with him !!
i know he died around 1853 and is buried in camperdown
i would love to find out a bit more about him but dont know where to start so any advice would be greatful :)

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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 January 16 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Civil registration commenced in 1856 in the Colony of New South Wales.

The following is from NSW BDM index and is a parish record so will not include all the information that would have been available post 1856..

408/1853 V1853408 39B    
HOLDAWAY Robert    Age 53

Robert received a conditional pardon in 1831
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gy8/
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32160122

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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 January 16 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning  :)

I am probably duplicating some of the info Cando has posted, but I will leave it all in this post, as where it is duplicating it will likely be supporting Cando's post.

June 1831
Convict Indent
Robert HOLDAWAY, aged 37, arrived per Eleanor 26 June 1831, Life sentence.  Tried for Machine Breaking at Southampton Special Gaol Delivery. No previous convictions
He could Read and Write, and he was Protestant.
He was a married man, 3 sons, 5 daughters.
Native place : Hampshire, England
And he was a Carpenter, wheelwright and hop-planter.,

December 1837 Muster
Robert HOLDAWAY aged 43, per Eleanor, at Penrith NSW assigned to John HARRIS. 

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/harris-john-2164 

NSW State Records Convict Index
13 Oct 1837 Royal Pardon Warrant 
There’s also mention of both a Conditional Pardon and an Absolute Pardon.
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

There’s a burial record indexed at the Early Church Records at NSW BDM.  Robert HOLDAWAY, aged 53.  This is for 1853, Volume 39B,  line 408.   It is unlikely to include any family history information as it is not a civil death registration.   It will provide the name of the cemetery.  Volume 39B is for Church of England burials. 

Here is the live link to the NSW BDM online index.   

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx  If you were considering purchasing NSW certificates, may I please recommend you try the alternative.  NSW BDM has Official Transcription Agents.   
 http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription  (cheaper, comes as email attachment, and is already deciphered )

Camperdown Cemetery - Newtown, St Stephens. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camperdown_Cemetery
http://www.neac.com.au/bookings/graveyard/
http://www.sag.org.au/downloads/CamperdownCemetery.pdf
. The information recorded in the butts includes: full name, late residence, parish, date and hour of death, cause of death and age.

https://sydneywebcam.smugmug.com/Camperdown-Cemetery/Camperdown-Cemetery-2005/

Cheers,  JM
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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 January 16 23:53 GMT (UK) »
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2555718
Mention of a HOLDAWAY.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12416800
Mention of Robert in this article

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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 January 16 00:04 GMT (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2201279 Sydney Gaz 28 June 1831
transported those convicted of Machine Breaking

Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle), Monday, September 8, 1828
Persons who have obtained Game Certificates for the year 1828, County of Southampton
John HOLDAWAY, Stoke
Isaac HOLDAWAY, Stoke
Robert HOLDAWAY, Stoke. 
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The Morning Post  Wednesday, December 29, 1830; Issue 18736
Special Commission for Hants.
Winchester Dec 27
The Judges took their seats at nine o'clock.  The Duke of Wellington took his seat on the Bench at the same time.
Robert HOLDAWAY, Matthew TRIGGS, Henry JAMES, James PAINTER, Thomas HARDING, John HEATH and Aaron HARDING were put to the bar, charged with having, with divers others, riotously and unlawfully assembled at Headley on the 23d of November, and, when so assembled, feloniously pulled down and demolished the poor houses of the united parishes of Bramshott, Headley and Kingsley.  They were charged in another count with beginning to pull down the said workhouse and in other counts with demolishing and with beginning to demolish the said house, being laid as the house of James SHOESMITH, the master, who resided in it.
Several witnesses were examined, who spoke to the general character of the meeting as riotous and tumultuous.  One said that there were 1,700 to 1,800 persons present.  One of the witnesses heard HOLDAWAY say “Come away, we have done enough.”  Another identified HEATH as having been on the roof of the poor house.
A witness spoke of HOLDAWAY as leading the mob and as counting out money to the people.
Mr Sparrow, one of the visitors of the poor, proved that he saw the workhouse completely demolished.  It would take as much as 800l to repair the damage.  About 200l worth of blankets and other property belonging to the workhouse were taken away;  very little of it was returned.
The Prisoners were then called on on for their defence
Robert HOLDAWAY – What I did was with a good intent.  I went about with the mob to prevent them from doing any mischief.  I did what I could to prevent them, but did not succeed.
The other Prsoners declined saying anything except John HEATH who stated that all that had been sworn against him was false.
HOLDAWAY called Harriet FREEMAN, who stated that she was at Holdaway’s house when the mob called on the 22d and forced him away.
The Rev Mr COBBOLD was next called.  He said a number of farmers had called on him.  He made no agreement with the farmers.  He was compelled to sign a paper, because his life was threatened, and also his house was threatened to be pulled down immediately.  The paper related to a reduction of tithes.  Witness has known HOLDAWAY eight years; would rather not be asked as to his character.  HOLDAWAY, Heath, and Harding belonged to the Selbourne parish.  The first is a wheelwright, the second a master carpenter and has a house and shop.  Harding is a labourer in husbandry.  Mr Cobbold also begged to state as an act of justice to HOLDAWAY that he saved his (witness’s) life and property on the 22d, by his influence over the mob that were about his house.
The Under Sheriff, Mr DUNN, stated he knew the Prisoner HOLDAWAY for many years.  He was originally a wheelwright, afterwards he kept a public house for six or seven years.  For the last twelve months he had given up that business.  Mr Dunn said he had always known him as a quiet, industrious and inoffensive man.  Witness hadknown very little of the Prisoner for the last year.
HOLDAWAY received an excellent character from other witnesses.  The Jury considered together for a short time, and returned a verdict of GUILTY against all the Prisoners.
The Foreman, after delivering the verdict, said– My Lords, the Jury have forborne to make any special recommendation to mercy, but they hope that your Lordships will take any extenuating circumstances in the cases of all the Prisoners into your consideration.  We have thought it better to leave the matter to your Lordships, satisfied that you will give the Prisoners the benefit of any such circumstances in their cases.
Mr Baron VAUGHAN – Certainly Gentlemen.  The Court will give due consideration to any such circumstances as those to which you refer.

See also many other reports “Special Commission Hants” including these two
Devizes and Wiltshire Gazette Thursday, December 30, 1830; pg. 2; Issue 781
The Morning Post Saturday, January 01, 1831; Issue 18739   (Sentences of Death, recommending commute to Life)


Cheers,  JM
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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 January 16 09:49 GMT (UK) »
morning guys

thank you so much for the information you have provided will have a look through it all to see if i can found any more info

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Re: robert holdaway
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 10:05 BST (UK) »
Robert Holdaway was transported due to his role in 'breaking of farm machinery' in the Selborne riots as detailed in 'One Monday in November'. He was sentenced to hang but this was commuted to transportation for life. No, his wife did not come with him. I can let you have more detail from the book or you may be able to get it from a library(stack) in NSW. Or I can give you some more detail if you reply to this. I know he is not on my line of Holdaways.Rowena Dunk (SA)