Happy Time Traveller Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[Tephra]

Welcome to another Scavenger Hunt, it's been a while since the last one, but I'm sure everyone has their thinking caps ready and raring to go.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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I'm searching for the marriage of John James Earwaker to Elizabeth Pain around 1870. John was born in Southwark, Surrey (London) and Elizabeth in Bermondsey, Surrey (London).

John born 23 March 1838
Elizabeth born 1844 - I'd also like to find her birth and death and parents too!

First child born 1870 in Southwark. They lived in Southwark all their lives. John died 1898. Can't find a death for Elizabeth but she was alive in 1911 census which doesn't give the length of the marriage.

I have no idea if she was married previously.

I know her maiden name is Pain because it says so on her daughter's birth certificate.
John was known as John /James/ John James

I have found Earwaker spelled Eawaker/Earwalker/Earwaken/Sandaker. It is a really difficult name to follow. I know it is also pronounced Erriker.

I have searched under Pain/Payne

I have looked for marriages in Southwark and Middlesex and London under every variation I can think of.

If anyone out there can find it, I will be so grateful!

[Milliepede]

Simple suggestion is if the marriage can't be found then it never existed in the first place!

Am going to have a look of course, love a challenge 

[Flattybasher9]

An Elizabeth Sarah Pain died Southwark aged 55 in June 1902. This would suggest that if it's her, there may be no marriage. She was bord Dec 1846 in Brentford.

Regards


Malky

[Milliepede]

If she is definitely alive in 1911 then she didn't die in 1902 

[JenB]

Simple suggestion is if the marriage can't be found then it never existed in the first place!

Dawn suggested here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711010.msg5547466#msg5547466 that John might not have been free to marry

[Flattybasher9]

"If she is definitely alive in 1911 then she didn't die in 1902"

Right enough, I read it as 1901. Interestingly, I am having problems with finding John's death in 1898

Regards

Malky

[Milliepede]

John James Earwaker age 59 death Mar 1898 St Saviour

[Milliepede]

Elizabeth is 67 in 1911 so maybe this death?

Jun 1918 Southwark
Elizabeth Earwaker age 75

[Happy Time Traveller]

Hi thanks for looking into this for me.  I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. I might not answer immediately but am checking the thread regularly. I'll try and find ref for Johns death

Thanks