Marriage certificate for Thomas Kavanagh only so is it possible to find him?

[LizzieL]

Was Thomas Kavanagh the informant on Catherine's birth certificate? If not he could have disappeared  9 months before she was born.

I have found the death of JTK age one registered in Newcastle district, but can't find a corresponding birth on the index (tried both freebmd and FindMyPast)

[JenB]

I have found the death of JTK age one registered in Newcastle district, but can't find a corresponding birth on the index (tried both freebmd and FindMyPast)

Birth: John Cavanagh, 3rd q. 1898, Newcastle on Tyne 10b, 163.

4th q 1898, John Thomas Cavanagh, Gateshead 10a, 887

[LizzieL]

I have found the death of JTK age one registered in Newcastle district, but can't find a corresponding birth on the index (tried both freebmd and FindMyPast)

Birth: John Cavanagh, 3rd q. 1898, Newcastle on Tyne 10b, 163.

4th q 1898, John Thomas Cavanagh, Gateshead 10a, 887

Thanks - so it was spelt with a "C" and I did a phonetic search on surname on FreeBMD too. But it only came up with alternatives starting with K.

[JenB]

His birth cert says his father is 'A GATESHEAD MINER' no name given which I thought very odd but mother's name is Marg Kavanagh.

he was only married in 1894 and Marg. had two children who on their birth certs of 1896 and 1898 he is named as father of both.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/cumberland/2009-08/1251287499

Which is correct please?

[josey]

Returning late to this party  & having read through all this thread &not finding a reference to it [but NOT having read all the other threads], can I just double check that the death certificate suggested  to eyshame by 'Steve' on rootsweb archiver [JenB's find] has NOT been obtained & analysed?

3) Most likely and you won`t like this

Marriage June Q 1894 Lanchester Margaret Mcoy

Death Sep Q 1894 Thomas Cavanagh age 28 Gateshead

Margaret as a young widow has two kids naming her deceased husband as the
father

Josey

PS you're all welcome to shoot me down if it has been obtained & I've miissed it - time to leave the party again possibly 

[JenB]

Ha!!

I was just musing on exactly the same posting on Rootsweb (dated 2009) 
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/cumberland/2009-08/1251287499

Did you get the death certificate as suggested?

That Thomas Cavanagh's burial is on Durham Records Online. Age at death 28, i.e. born c. 1866.
Address Mulgrave Terrace.

[larkspur]

Well done Josey http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/cumberland/2009-08/1251299975

Beat me to it Jen!!

Name   Thomas Kavanagh
Gender   Male
Birth Date   20 Mar 1866
Baptism Date   01 Apr 1866
Baptism Place   St. Joseph's, Gateshead, Durham, England
FHL Film Number   2046403
Reference ID   item 3 v 3 p 155
Parents Thomas Kavanagh and Catharina Ginty

[josey]

(.....in a whisper as embarrassed not to remember ) can anyone remind me if the address Mulgrave Terrace features on any census or child's birth registration for Margaret's children?

[JenB]

Death Sep Q 1894 Thomas Cavanagh age 28 Gateshead

There are some newspaper articles about the manslaughter of a Thomas Cavanagh in Gateshead in August 1894