Barriers To Genealogy In The Future

[DavidG02]

The census just collects population statistics - you don't find that type of information in phone books or newspaper births!

And that's the point I was making. The UK and US census are  recognized as a Prime Source because it brings the phone book/bdm type of records in one place. It notates relationships between householders. It gives approximate ages and it gives residence.  It - for me- gives life to people more than an entry in a phonebook can give.

[landej]

Amen to that! I've seen old census records in the US where they ask for number of years married, number of children and how many still living and so on. That type of info is crucial when you're trying to prove you have the right 'John Smith'.

[jaybelnz]

For years citizens, and groups, both men and women, and  Human Rights activists have worked incredibly hard, and there are now very good inclusive Human Rights for everyone, laid down in law, regardless of Race, colour, creed, gender orientation, station in life, whatever!

So Andrew, dismissing your other controversial post, are you now saying that people should just have to put up and shut up, when verbally insulted, harassed in the workplace etc etc. or otherwise offended by others?

[pharmaT]

For years citizens, and groups, both men and women, and  Human Rights activists have worked incredibly hard, and there are now very good inclusive Human Rights for everyone, laid down in law, regardless of Race, colour, creed, gender orientation, station in life, whatever!

So Andrew, dismissing your other controversial post, are you now saying that people should just have to put up and shut up, when verbally insulted, harassed in the workplace etc etc. or otherwise offended by others?

Sadly the attitude you describe is very common.

[3sillydogs]

We don't have census info available here anyway, they're destroyed after the stats are done!  Have to rely on Electoral Roll!  That's not so bad, at least that's every 4 years!

No census info here either, also destroyed after stats extracted.  Voters rolls as well for us

[ThrelfallYorky]

So, the safest thing is also the simplest: Go back to enormous sheets of paper, archive-quality ink in your rapidograph pen, and invest in a large cardboard tube to keep it in, with a BIG box for all the backup papers, and then a large, locked, bomb-proof, fireproof, termite-proof shelter to keep it in - er, what do we do to to keep the key safe?

[Andrew Tarr]

So Andrew, dismissing your other controversial post, are you now saying that people should just have to put up and shut up, when verbally insulted, harassed in the workplace etc etc. or otherwise offended by others?

Not necessarily.  I would prefer to say (trying to put it delicately) that some people may feel offended too easily, often by trivial things.  I don't suppose I am much more or much less offended than other people, and I don't go out of my way to be offensive.  But at my time of life I take a few minutes to cool down and usually decide that it's healthier to do that than make waves.  So many issues are often not that important in the grand scheme of things.

This whole tiff began when I used a fairly common phrase to which a few Chatters took exception.  From my angle that amounts to their telling me what language I should use - which in this particular instance was not directed personally at anyone.  I don't find that 'offensive', just a bit patronising.  Sorry.

[Guy Etchells]

As to using your name in forums.... 

After experiencing cyber bullying, I used to be a moderator on a very large forum bigger than this one, which led to the need of police involvement, and I wasn't using my name either...

Just shows what can happen, when things go wrong...  On this forum, yes I do use the name I'm known by but only my first name...   

Guy, don't agree with what you say, is good manners, Yes face to face with somebody it's good manners go give your correct name, or in my case the name I'm normally known by..  But not on the internet, as you're not face to face with somebody, you can't see or hear the person you are interacting with, so have no clue what's so ever whether they are a possible friend or foul... 

Your mention of cyber bullying exemplifies why we need to use our real names on forums, bullies feel protected when they can hide behind pseudonyms.
This feeling of protection allows the cowards to carry on their bullying.
When they have to use their real names if the police have to get involved it is far easier for them to take action they it is if they have to trace the culprits first.

As to your second point it has always been good manners to identify oneself even in correspondence which does not involve talking or not face to face interaction.
Do we not, for instance, put our full address at the top of letters and sign them at the end.

Cheers
Guy

[Guy Etchells]

The word condom was used in his Sex Education Classes when my son started at Secondary School in the early 1980's.

It may surprise some that the word condom (spelled condon) was used in a 1666 birth rate report and by the early 18th century was in common use, but it is not certain if the primary use of condoms in those days was for prophylaxis or for contraception.

Even today however many people seem to be too timid to use the word and avoid using the name in favour of one of the many slang terms for it.
Cheers
Guy