Barriers To Genealogy In The Future

[groom]

That had crossed my mind as well. I have a friend who married in America, but not only that, she opted to continue to use her maiden name as she didn't like his surname. So there is probably no chance of any one in the future finding that she was ever married.

[smudwhisk]

A 3rd cousin of mine kept her maiden name when she married and her husband took her surname.  Their children are registered with the mother's maiden name the same as their surname so to all intents and purpose they look likely to be illegitimate.   Its not even like her surname was that unusual, although admittedly as his was Williams, I suppose something not quite so common was perhaps prefered.  It may have been better if they'd double-barrelled it instead. In that case, at least the fact that part of the surname was also the maiden name may have given a future researcher a clue as to what was going on.

[smudwhisk]

On a similar note, a uni friend of mine shortened her surname while at university removing the "bottom" off the surname.  Her shorter surname is less unusual than her birth surname.  Some poor researcher in the future has little chance of probably tracking her forward or her children backwards on their mother's line because of the change unless they were aware of it.   Even if change of name by deed poll records become publically available in the future, she married in a different part of the country so it's less likely a researcher would make the connection anyway.

Mind you, lets face it our ancestors were quite good at doing similar things in the past anyway.   One of my ancestors appears to have taken the surname of his half siblings' father even though none of the siblings was born in wedlock and were all baptised with their mother's surname.  We only solved the mystery when we came across his half siblings mass baptism which mentioned their reputed father's name.  Then everything fell into place because one of my ancestor's daughters was visiting her father's half sibling on a later census which gave away a family connection.  As my ancestor was 8 years older than the oldest of his half siblings, its unlikely that their father's was also his, although not impossible because his half sibling's father was the husband of their mother's aunt, albeit the aunt was deceased when the younger siblings were born.  It's not impossible he was mucking around with the neice before his wife's death.

[Josephine]

My thoughts too!  I'd even create myself a different user name, and abuse them for stealing stuff from my tree without checking, then give them more false nonsense info! 😄  Serve them right!

LOL, that's too funny!

[Rosinish]

one barrier to future researchers will be when couples choose to have their marriage ceremony overseas.   As far as I'm aware there is no requirement for the marriage to be registered with the home authorities, so it obviously won't be so easy for future researchers to track down.

I was married overseas but still had to post Banns with local Registry Office. Not sure if something will be recorded but I shall give them a call next week to find out. I am Scottish which may be different from England/Wales/N Ireland?

Annie

[DavidG02]

Not sure if its been raised already or not, but one barrier to future researchers will be when couples choose to have their marriage ceremony overseas.  I know a few couples who have opted for this, often because its cheaper than a wedding at home.  As far as I'm aware there is no requirement for the marriage to be registered with the home authorities, so it obviously won't be so easy for future researchers to track down.

That had crossed my mind as well. I have a friend who married in America, but not only that, she opted to continue to use her maiden name as she didn't like his surname. So there is probably no chance of any one in the future finding that she was ever married.

I was married overseas but still had to post Banns with local Registry Office. Not sure if something will be recorded but I shall give them a call next week to find out

Bali/Indonesian info

 http://bali.indonesia.embassy.gov.au/blli/marriage.html

In order for an Australian citizen (or a permanent resident who is domiciled in Australia) to marry in Bali or NTB, it is necessary to make an application at the Consulate for a Certificate of No Impediment to Marriage. Persons who wish to marry in other provinces of Indonesia are advised to contact the Australian Embassy, Jakarta. Nationals of other countries should check the requirements for their nationality with their nearest Embassy or Consulate.

Australian citizens (and permanent residents who are domiciled in Australia) should apply to the Consulate in person during public office hours. In most cases the certificate can be processed on the same day. The Australian applicant is required to sign a declaration in front of a Consular Official and produce their original passport as proof of identity, along with original proof of dissolution of marriage if applicable (ie, a decree absolute if divorced, or death certificate if widowed).

Part VA of the Act contains the rules for recognition of marriages entered into outside Australia under foreign laws. The basic rule adopted is that, if the marriage was recognised as valid under the law of the country in which it was entered into, at the time when it was entered into, the marriage will be recognised in Australia as a valid marriage, unless one of the exceptions mentioned below is applicable.

I think future generations will skip marriages as a Primary Source and use Births and Deaths. Statutory requirements will always be required for those 2. I don't place much importance on marriages  apart from the obvious ability to link 2 people . Many customs arose from ''stepping over the broomstick'' to '' Common Law'' - it is the notating by Church/State officials which we place emphasis on.

[DavidG02]

On a similar note, a uni friend of mine shortened her surname while at university removing the "bottom" off the surname.  Her shorter surname is less unusual than her birth surname.  Some poor researcher in the future has little chance of probably tracking her forward or her children backwards on their mother's line because of the change unless they were aware of it.   Even if change of name by deed poll records become publically available in the future, she married in a different part of the country so it's less likely a researcher would make the connection anyway.

Oh I think our descendants will be clued into this. With the rise in immigration and the lack of English by those who sail in and the lack of Patience shown by officials ;we have already had an indication that a persons name may not be what it was

I think the vast number of names in America are corrupted through this process.

[pinefamily]

I think what Pinefamily meant is that Births, Marriages and Deaths aren't announced in newspapers as much as they used to be. In future years people will be able to find them on Facebook! 

Thanks Groom. Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry, KGarrad, for not being clearer. Sometimes I know what I'm thinking but don't always translate it well into the written word.

David, the same thing happens here in Australia. Over the years, immigrants from different cultures have had their names altered by English speaking officials. Maybe not so much these days when forms are required to be filled out by the person.
The best example I can think of are the two football players, Paul Porplicia and Jason Porplizia. Apparently their grandfathers were brothers, and when they came out to Australia, that was how their names were spelt on official forms, and that was how they stayed.

[smudwhisk]

On a similar note, a uni friend of mine shortened her surname while at university removing the "bottom" off the surname.  Her shorter surname is less unusual than her birth surname.  Some poor researcher in the future has little chance of probably tracking her forward or her children backwards on their mother's line because of the change unless they were aware of it.   Even if change of name by deed poll records become publically available in the future, she married in a different part of the country so it's less likely a researcher would make the connection anyway.

Oh I think our descendants will be clued into this. With the rise in immigration and the lack of English by those who sail in and the lack of Patience shown by officials ;we have already had an indication that a persons name may not be what it was

I think the vast number of names in America are corrupted through this process.

Possibly but that doesn't mean they may have much success trying to find the original name.  Really depends I suspect on how much its been changed and how publically available the records are.