New information, names of five French Canadians lost on the Annie Jane

[J.J.]

Not sure if the dates meant signed up for those years, or actually worked within & up to those years...but there is another  name under the merchant seaman you might look into...
Ubalel Gagnon -Military Service-Year Range 1845-1854  United Kingdom  Birthplace  Canada
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCQ3-C64

and also adding   Andee Drapean   Military Service   1845-1854  United Kingdom Birthplace Canada
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCQ9-SVT

and... "Amatle" Moan    Military Service 1853-1857    United Kingdom  Birthplace Canada  Birth Year 1829
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC3V-4XV

This publications says they took on more crew at the Liverpool stop...so number of crew appears to vary from 41 to 45? What a jumble of "evidence"...and the horrible rotter Mason lived after killing so many....then HIS testimony is used rather that that of his victims. argh...
https://books.google.ca/books?id=_fIzAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA453&lpg=PA453&dq="annie+jane"

and blaming the French Canadian crew in the end? Why?.... because most of them were dead?
Seems to me that this captain of this ship should have gone down with it...

[J.J.]

Napoleon Mercer  Military Service  1845-1854   United Kingdom  Birthplace Canada
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCQH-JDG

Edwd Durrant   Military Service 1845-1854    United Kingdom  Birthplace   Canada
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCQ9-CBM

and as I'd suggested earlier Joseph may have been from Liverpool...perhaps one of the crew ( 11 to 15 men ) taken on at the return to Liverpool
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajos~%20%2Bsurname%3ATallat~&collection_id=1762440

[J.J.]

Here is an Amable, L'Islet 1852 ...The surname could be Monn, Moni, Morin the N's, R's, & I's, all interchangeable  phonetics mixed with bad handwriting can be a most horrible thing!
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e093/e002305555.jpg

There appear to be images on the FindMyPast site for the Merchants seamen....altho could just give same info as already available...  http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/merchant-navy-seamen?lastname=gagnon

[sami]

Have become quite confused reading through the various postings, name spellings and record repositories. So my apologies if I'm repeating information that has already been given.

I've been looking at both the FindMyPast original records for Deaths at Sea and the Merchant Navy Seamen.

Under Listings for Deaths at Sea:  Annie Jane

Amable MOAN - Number of Reg. Ticket: 100046
Samuel LANGLAS - Number of Reg. Ticket: 100031
Joseph TALLAT - Number of Reg. Ticket: 100012
Andre DRAPEAU - Number of Reg. Ticket: 100022
Napoleon MERCAR - Number of Reg. Ticket: 105644

Under Listings for Merchant Navy Seamen:

Amable MOAN - Age 25, birth year 1829, born Canada (Drowned/Annie Jane)
Samuel LANGLAS - Age 28, birth year 1826, born Quebec (Drowned/Annie Jane). Also listed as - Saml. LANGLOIS - born Quebec. Register Ticket 1000310.
Joseph TALLAT - Couldn't find any information on him.
Andre DRAPEAU - Age 34, birth year 1820, Born Quebec (Drowned/Annie Jane). **Register Ticket  100033 (doesn't match with the Deaths at Sea Reg. Ticket - could just be a transcription error on the original copy).
Napoleon MERCIER - born Quebec, Canada. Register Ticket 1056440


There is also:
Edwd DURRANT - born St Johns, Canada. Register Ticket 699097. Couldn't find anything else about him.

sami

[J.J.]

Thanks for looking for those sami...I'm afraid you'll have to get used to the confusion as this is just a two pager thus far ...  I really should add here, though, that we all DO read through the posts before replying,  and I don't think there is ever a reason not to...

I used to carefully compile a list in another program as longer posts can go south..., or I'd go back in and modify a list to keep the information cleaner, but modify only works for a while...then I'd hit save and the site would say others were posting...and then find that several other searchers had posted individual posts with the same information I'd been busy compiling...

Edward Durrant proves that 'French Canadians' weren't only born in Quebec...
There are two showing in 1851, one here a few years out in birth

There are two Samuel showing in 1851, one here a few years out in birth, but don't see him in later census...But nothin to prove this might be the correct person. He is occ. labourer,  perhaps on a farm.
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SplitView.jsp?id=50776

[sami]

Have been trying to find more on Joseph Tallat - looking again at the register I'm wondering if the first letter of the surname is an 'L' rather than a 'T'. Couldn't get anywhere with that thought either.

Is it possible to search the Register Ticket Number?

[J.J.]

The Joseph Tollet I'd found earlier, in the Merchant Marines would have been older than the other crew as his signup was 1835 ...That one shows as from Wexford.
Joseph Tollet  Event Year Range 1835-1836 United Kingdom  Birthplace Wexford

[Vatersay]

Thanks to the two of you for all your hard work

I will sit down on the weekend and update the website, most look pretty definite.
I am pleased to get Edward Durant as well, there is a fascinating demographic emerging of the Annie Jane as very youthful ship I haven't sat down and worked out the average age yet but I can see its going to be a lot lower than I ever expected. I wonder was that typical of emigrant ships?

JJ its funny to how many people react with anger to an event over 160 years ago, me too. It seems to have been a whitewash, Mason had just killed 350 people put into his care, whichever way you look at it the responsibility was his. He got away without any reprimand. He did not live long to enjoy it though.

Regards Allan

[J.J.]

There are two references under Merchant marines on FindMyPast if someone wants to peek back in there!
No discharge, so both might be for the same man as he is older.
JOSEPH Tollet ... b. 1799 Wexford —   ref# BT120
JOSEPH  TOLLET -   -   -                  BT112

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/merchant-navy-seamen?firstname=jos&firstname_variants=true&lastname=tallet&lastname_variants=true

No wonder I couln't find them under deaths at sea...they were all five under search keywords Annie Lane