William Pentecost Marylebone.

[vhowie]

I have found William Pentecost in the 1841 census Middlesex, St Marylebone, St John, District 9living at 13 Hardington Street with his wife Phoebe and two children William and Elizabeth.  I cannot make out his trade. Also at the front of the census I cannot make out the streets named in this census book.
I am doing an assignment which involves googling the streets where ancestors lived. I cannot find Hardington Street on a current google map which suggest a name change. Also William lived at Grave Lane in 1836 and Little Alie st in 1838. I would love to find a map with these streets that could be superimposed onto todays maps. If this is not possible I would like an idea of where the streets were or still are. I would also like any references to life in this area in the 1840s.

[..claire..]

Hi

I am open to correction here, but it looks like the initials M.S

which could be Man/Male Servant

claire

[lizdb]

Agree with MS - Male servant

The road before Hardington Street on the census schedule is Great Carlisle Street (page 13 of census) if that helps

This link
http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Marylebone/CarlisleSt16.shtml
suggests some of Great Carlisle Street became Manning Street.

[Ruskie]

Links to a few nicely detailed maps -:

Cruchley 1846:
http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/1846map/1846map_linkc.htm
(click on an area to enlarge)

[excellent] Stanford map of London 1862:
http://www.mappalondon.com/london/north-west/map.htm
(continue to click on appropriate area to zoom in further)

I'll have a look to see if I can find any of the streets you mention.

Added: Found Hardington St in the centre of map on the left:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=18&lat=51.5229&lon=-0.1727&layers=176&right=BingHyb
Sadly it no longer exists (use your cursor to compare locations of streets on old and new maps)
If you scroll around the map a bit you can see the surrounding streets as mentioned in the 1841 census eg Carlisle St, Church St, Princess St ...

[Ruskie]

Re: Grave Lane and Little Alie Street
Are they also in Marylebone?

Where did these street names come from (eg baptism record)? (am trying to put them into some kind of context).

[Ruskie]

Little Alie Street:

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=51.5150&lon=-0.0700&layers=6&right=BingHyb
(big old mess there now and bears no resemblance to when your family lived there)

I can't find any reference to a Grave Lane.

[Ruskie]

It's not Gravel Lane is it?

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=19&lat=51.5149&lon=-0.0772&layers=168&right=BingHyb

(it's in the vicinity)

[vhowie]

Thanks Ruski you are a champion. I would have searched and searched and never found the map with Hardington St. The other streets were Gravel St. (Sorry, I incorrectly wrote Grave St) in 1836 this is recorded on son's baptism and Little Alie St 1838 recorded on daughter's baptism. Residence Marylebone.Thank you to others who have contributed. I now have plenty of information to work on.
Once again thank you.

[vhowie]

On looking at son William's Baptism record again I perhaps have the wrong location for Gravel Lane.
William was baptised in the Parish of St Saviour, Southwark,in the county of Surrey in 1836.
Abode Gravel Lane, Father's occupation Groom.