Robert Patrick FLUDDER burial in Wolverhampton 1942

[Lei]

I'm not getting very far finding Robert Patrick FLUDDER's grave... His death was registered
Dec 1942 • Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England AND I have it on good authority that his wife attended the funeral. The family came from Greenwich/Deptford, London so we don't actually know  why he would have been in Staffs although it was during war time and as I understand so many men worked away from home on farms.

Lei

[lizdb]

So - he died within the Wolverhampton Registration District, but came from Greenwich/Deptford.

You are going to need to find out a lot more before even thinking about looking for a grave. Whereabouts in the Wolverhampton Reg district did he die? Had the family moved there or was he just visiting the area?

The first step, I would say, would be to get the death cert and see if it gives any more clues.

What happened to his widow? Have you found where she died?

[rosie99]

It looks as though his wife may have been cremated, could he have been as well. 

[Lei]

His family was from the London area...  his wife was on the 1938 electoral register at Giffin Street and I've found him on the 1939 register at Giffin Street Deptford, London. I understand his son remembers when his mum attended the funeral, so I presume he was just visiting or working in Wolverhampton at the time of his death.

New info:  It seems the Quakers had him under their wing (as he was suffering from severe arthritis)
cause of death 1) arthrits 2) thickening of the heart muscle due to arthritis. Heart failure!
Searching for the death cert.

BTW his wife was cremated as was her sons wish.

Giffin Street, Deptford was considered a slum. I have already found the family on the poor house records for short stays on numerous occasions.

Lei

[lizdb]

 It seems the Quakers had him under their wing (as he was suffering from severe arthritis)
 

Sorry, I don't follow !

[Lei]

In as far as I can ascertain The Christian Quakers helped Robert Patrick FLUDDER because he was infirm with the arthritis. It seems they took him to Wolverhampton and would have paid for his burial.

Lei

[BumbleB]

As there is a Quaker Residential Home in Wolverhampton, perhaps you could contact them.

"During the 20th century the Friends thrived and were active in peace movements, the allotments movement, race relations and other worthy causes. One of their activities was running hostels for elderly people who had been bombed out of their homes during the 1939-45 War, for which purpose they used, from 1941 onwards, the Woodlands in Penn Road. In 1945 it became their home for the elderly in which use, with many extensions and improvements, it continues. (The Woodlands is a listed building)."  from Quakers in Wolverhampton by Frank Sharman - http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/articles/electronic/quakers.htm

[lizdb]

What address did he die at ? (from death cert) and who was the informant?

[Lei]

I have never actually seen the death cert, his son has it and being an old man with dementia is going to take a while for him to find it! This is now in hand.

So as not to leave you all guessing it seems that Robert was a naughty boy, he married (Catholic) and then strayed (apparently his son was only 3 yrs old & his mum said his father was dead). The address where he lived in Deptford was never bombed and the flats stood intact at the end of WW2. I can only think that if he was living with another woman close by then maybe that place was bombed? either that or he 'pulled a fast one' and lied about his circumstances to the Quakers! He was only 46 yrs old when he died so I wouldn't have thought he would have been seen as elderly although he did have a condition which would have crippled him & eventually killed him!! Could this be the reason for Quakers benevolence? His son has always wanted to visit his dads grave but didn't have a clue how to find it & his mum simply wasn't talking about it!

I want to thank everybody for their help and suggestions & will try to keep you all updated   

Lei