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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #45 on: Friday 08 January 16 16:22 GMT (UK) »
I have a distant relative called Fanny Brain. Imagine the taunts she would get at school if that was now.

I found a distant relative called Fanny Shutt. I'll say no more.

Quick tip: If you've got a distinctive surname in your family, try searching for it as a first name on Ancestry/Findmypast/Familysearch etc. and see what it throws up.
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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #46 on: Friday 08 January 16 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I have a distant relative called Fanny Brain. Imagine the taunts she would get at school if that was now.

I found a distant relative called Fanny Shutt. I'll say no more.

Fanny Prime !

Quick tip: If you've got a distinctive surname in your family, try sticking for it as a first name on Ancestry/Findmypast/Familysearch etc. and see what it throws up.


My favourite surname-used-as-first-name combo I've found is a Lightowlers Stainthorp. Unfortunately not a relative as far as I can tell (so far). Lightowlers ;D

There seems to be a lot of that sort of thing in the north-east, cf Robson Golightly Green. Three surnames for the price of one.

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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #47 on: Friday 08 January 16 21:39 GMT (UK) »
My favourite name that I've found while looking through old parish registers is Theophilus Sodhunter. Wish he was in my family...  :)
Was that really Sodhunter, not a mutation of Todhunter (tod meaning fox) ?

Was a while ago and it just stuck in my memory...didn't copy it so can't even remember the parish...
ENGLAND Williams
GLOUCESTERSHIRE Thompson, Phelps, Pincott
NORFOLK Oakley, Clarke
SUFFOLK Sheppard/Shepherd, Wiseman
CORNWALL Cowling
LANCASHIRE Rigby, Page, Pedder
YORKSHIRE Mills
KERRY Leane, Nash
TYRONE McLaughlin, Spencer
MIDLOTHIAN Cumming, Murdoch, Nelson
LANARKSHIRE Williamson, Brechin
CUMBERLAND/DUMFRIES Higgins
PERTHSHIRE Burnett
HELGOLAND, GERMANY Lührs

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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 10 January 16 11:29 GMT (UK) »
In the family line I am following at the moment, I have just unearthed a Hamish Hustler Howard Coates. Thought I should share that one.  ;D
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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 10 January 16 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Distinctive names certainly helped me with my Hardwick lines.

My grandfather was Charles Whitney Hardwick, my uncle Peter John Whitney Hardwick; my great grandfather Frank Whitney Hardwick. Frank's mother Was Emma Hardwick nee Wiles ... but HER mother's maiden name was Whitney.

However, it was my great grandmother Hardwick (Frank's wife) that distinctive names REALLY helped to crack.

I had the marriage certificate ... Frank Whitney Hardwick married Myrah Cass Stephenson in Trumpington (just outside Cambridge) in 1905. Families from Trumpington and Newmarket. But could I find a birth for Myrah (or Myra) Cass Stephenson? Or Myrah (or Myra) C Stephenson? Or just plain Myrah (or Myra) Stephenson?

Not a chance.

What about a Stephenson child who was not names until after registration?

Nope, still nothing.

Eventually, in despair, I searched for "Myrah Cass" with no family name given ... and BINGO! Out it popped. Only one in the ENTIRE database ... Myrah Cass S Holcombe ... born in the right year, but in South East London.

I had a small wager with myself that the S was for Stephenson ... and when the birth certificate came ... I was right.

The story soon fell into place. Myrah's mother Emily Holcombe was the daughter of an ex-soldier who worked on the railways and then had a beer house in the East End of London. He died at the age of 39. Emily's mother tried to run the beer house for a little while, then gave it up and moved back to her home village of Exning, just outside Newmarket. She went into service, and Emily and her sister were sent to live with their grandparents - Ambrose and Sarah Frost at the White Swan in Exning, in Emily's case, and Anthony and Martha Holcombe in Chippenham (another village just outside Newmarket) in her sister's case.

Ambrose and Sarah Frost died, and Emily then went to live with her Holcombe grandparents and her sister. Martha Holcombe died, but Anthony soldiered on (until he was 98 - which isn't a bad age to reach in the 19th century!).

Emily worked in a bar ... and then she went to South East London where she worked in another bar, and had a daughter who was named Myrah Cass Stephenson Holcombe. Do father named on the birth certificate. But soon after, she married Charles James Christopher Stephenson, the son of a Newmarket baker, in Hendon. (I've still not quite figured out what the Hendon connection is ... ) I have little doubt that Charles Stephenson was in fact Myrah's father.

They then returned to Newmarket, where they went into business as publicans and bakers, and quietly dropped Myrah's original surname Holcombe. And - here's the really cunning thing - if anybody questioned Myrah's legitimacy they could, if necessary, swear on oath that she had ALWAYS been named Myrah Cass Stephenson. (That is the truth and nothing but the truth ... but not, evidently, the whole truth ... )

My mother was more than a little stunned to learn that her grandmother had been illegitimate ... but there's no doubt whatever ... and I have to say, it is a rather nice human-interest story with a happy ending.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright

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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #50 on: Monday 18 January 16 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Another one to throw into the mix, of special interest to people with Essex ancestors....

On Familysearch I came across the marriage in Steeple, Essex between Hannah Laver and Little Wakering. "Uh-oh", I thought, "somebody's transcribed the name of the parish instead of the name of the groom." (Little Wakering is a nearby village). Looked at the image. He is actually called Little Wakering.
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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #51 on: Monday 18 January 16 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Another one to throw into the mix, of special interest to people with Essex ancestors....

On Familysearch I came across the marriage in Steeple, Essex between Hannah Laver and Little Wakering. "Uh-oh", I thought, "somebody's transcribed the name of the parish instead of the name of the groom." (Little Wakering is a nearby village). Looked at the image. He is actually called Little Wakering.

Brother called Big Wakering?  ;)
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Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
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Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #52 on: Monday 18 January 16 22:25 GMT (UK) »
I know someone with first name Mark, second name Anthony.

I wonder if there are any inventors   who have named their sons  Mark One, Mark Two  etc?
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Re: Tracing distinctive first names and middle names
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 19 January 16 06:27 GMT (UK) »
I know someone with first name Mark, second name Anthony.

I wonder if there are any inventors   who have named their sons  Mark One, Mark Two  etc?

Just as long as they didn't name one Beta!  ;D ;D
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Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.