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First World War hospital diaries now online
« on: Friday 01 January 16 00:56 GMT (UK) »
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/first-world-war-hospital-diaries-now-online

Apparently the National Archives now have transcribed diaries for 247 hospital camps, convalescent hospitals and ships, but the link takes me to the regimental diaries, and I cannot find anything useful.
My grandfather was treated at St Louis Base 21 hospital at Rouen, then at Colliton VAD Hospital in Dorchester, but neither shows up.

Has anyone had any luck using this search?

Caroline. :P
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Re: First World War hospital diaries now online
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 January 16 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Had a look at the War Diary of 12 Stationary Hospital the other day. For a family historian, not terribly useful - the only names are those of the commanding officers. It starts in 1914 with details; by 1915 the diary is more sparse, with just numbers. I don't have my notes with me, but entries like "ambulance train with 300 casualties arrived; all fed and wounds dressed; 35 discharged; 17 sent to England" would summarise a whole day.
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Re: First World War hospital diaries now online
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 January 16 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Over the past couple of years The National Archives have been making all First World War unit war diaries available online, and have now got round to including medical units in France and Flanders. They are supplied as copies of original document and are not transcriptions, so some are not that easy to read.  They vary in content but are simply a day to day account of the basic running of the units, so unlikely to supply much of use to anyone searching for individuals.  A number of them give details of deaths in the form of name, number, unit and cause of death. Some of the diaries are rather good on detail for the early months of the war, but most fairly soon become simply a list of admissions, discharges and comings and goings of medical officers.

The reference to 'convalescent hospitals' should actually read 'convalescent camps' - the units in France where men were sent to recuperate if they were not so seriously ill or wounded that they needed to return to the United Kingdom. All these military hospitals are those that were run under the control of the War Office.  They are in no way connected with any other auxiliary, convalescent or VAD hospital under the control of the British Red Cross Society and Order of St. John. Surviving records for those are very rare and if they exist are likely to be held in local or County archives in the UK.

With reference to the St. Louis Unit, they took over No.12 General Hospital, Rouen, from the British in the summer of 1917, and that war diary can be found under it's original British title and is available for download from TNA even for the period after the Americans took over.

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Re: First World War hospital diaries now online
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 January 16 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello, and thank you both for your advice.
I have poor George's records with the date he was gassed and evacuated, so was looking for background information, and anything else to add to his story.

I was struggling with the NA site, tried every variation of search and kept coming up with blanks, so 12 Stationary hospital has now given me 2 results, which I will try to download, hoping they go through to late 1918.
I managed to find the Aberdonian Hospital ship last night and paid to download the file, but the email link was blank - so annoying, but will try again with this one.

Incidentally, for anyone interested in St Louis Base 21/No 12 General Hospital, here is a site with a wonderful photographic collection:
file:///C:/Users/User/Desktop/Genealogy%20to%20check/George/Visual%20Collections.html


Many thanks again.

Caroline.
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Close, Davies, Thomas, Isaac, Williams - Carmarthenshire, Glamorganshire, Monmouthshire.


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Re: First World War hospital diaries now online
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 January 16 21:17 GMT (UK) »
12 General Hospital, Caroline, not 12 Stationary - I'll try and find a link for you.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 January 16 21:22 GMT (UK) »
It will be the first two links here, according to date - click on 'details'

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/391bb35d47214cb499fc30b323fe0ed2

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Re: First World War hospital diaries now online
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 January 16 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Sue.

I don't know how you found it - maybe I'm searching in the wrong place.
I have ordered the download, and again it has turned up blank, so I will have to email NA for help with both my downloads...  >:(

Caroline.
Church, Ciaccia, Mann, Butfoy, Boutefoy, Hulbert, Allar, Furneaux, Tylee, Carruthers - London.
Close, Davies, Thomas, Isaac, Williams - Carmarthenshire, Glamorganshire, Monmouthshire.


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