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Did they marry?
« on: Thursday 31 December 15 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Been searching for a marriage for these two for years now and got nowhere so hoping a new pair of eyes may spot a entry somewhere.

George Coole born 1812 Bristol, parents George and Hannah Coole.  Married to Hesther Osborne.

George and Hesther went on to have 6 daughters

Eliza 1844-1851
Hester 1846-1918
Emily 1847-1902
Mary Ann 1849-1851
Louisa 1850-1851
Eliza b 1854.

On the 1841 census George is living with his mother Hannah

So one would of thought he married between 1841- 1844????

The surname Coole does seem to change from Coole to Cole by 1851, easy to drop the "o" George's oldest brother John was baptised Coole but his other 3 siblings were baptised Cole.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 December 15 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Does the name Osborne come from a child's birth certificate, and have you traced Hester pre-1844?

I can see a Hester Osborne, "30", in Bristol in 1841 with daughters Emma 15 and Louisa 13.  She seems likely to be the Hester Crook who married William Osborne in Bristol in 1825.
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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 December 15 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the mother's name was on the two birth certificates I have, Eliza and Emily.  Maybe she was a widow, the two daughters Emma and Louisa could well be married by 1844. 

The birth certificates both spell the surname Coole.

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Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
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OSBORNE family of Bristol Area
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 December 15 13:18 GMT (UK) »
re: previous reply (Hester possibly a Widow)

CLDS

Emma OSBORNE christened 9 April 1826: St Augstine-the-Lees, Bristol, parents: William & Hester
Louisa OSBORNE christened 30 November 1828: St Michael's Bristol, parent: William & Hester

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A 'Osborne' Researcher years ago, said : 'Don't worry that the marriages were in Bristol.  An awful lot of S. Glos people went to Bristol to marry or were living there as single people and working there at the time of their marriage.


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My husband's late mother Ruth (nee OSBORNE) - her ancestors came from the Bristol area - 18th century.

In the past, I've been in contact with this website:

The Osborne Family of C18th Bristol Area  (a very common name in the Bristol area)


http://www.creativegraces.net

The above website is very helpful (on Facebook/Ancestry etc)

Will look through my old notes

This is my husband's family

1851 Census for Bristol St George
Two Mile Hill

OSBORNE

Samuel 58 Blacksmith - (born St. George, Bristol : connections with Bitton)
Mary - 53
George - 20
Ann - 18
Thomas - 15
Samuel - 11



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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:36 GMT (UK) »
In 1841  there is a Hester Osbourne aged 30  Dressmaker b abt 1811  living Old Park Lane, St Michael Bristol with here daughters:  Emma  Osborne  b 1826 and Louisa  b 1828.  These fit with the names you have, but this Hester is likely to be  Hester CROOK who married William OSBOURNE  in Philip and Jacob in 1825.

Emma Osborne dau of Hester and William baptised St Augustine  9 April 1826
Louisa Osbourne dau Hester and William baptised  St Micheal  30 November 1828


However, there is a baptism in Bristol for a Hester Osbourne in Bristol in 1815:
Hester Osbourne dau of James and Ann  baptised Philip and Jacob, Bristol   29.10.1815. 

Can't find a James Osborne marriage to an Ann in Bristol, but I did find this:

I have found one likely marriage in 1811  Redruth Cornwall  25 April 1811
James Osborne  married Ann Mitchell (widow) no ages given.
Grooms parish is noted as  'Sojourner'  i.e a temporary resident.  If he was a seaman, (which would certainly make him a Sojourner),  he might have moved up to Bristol by the time Hester was baptised in 1815

I can find no Osbourne/Coole marriage in Bristol (although both names occur there)

(A George Cole married Hester STREET in 1825 but as she was a spinster she cannot be Hester Osborne)

Any chance that Hester Osborne who married George was in fact a widow when she hooked up with him,  this would possibly make her Hester Crook by birth - while not noted on the Census as a widow in 1841, she is head of the household.

Finally, I wonder if Hester and George may have run away together as I have found these marriages in the Circencester District, so far it's the only connection I can make to Osbourne/Coole surnames: 

Name    Hester Osborne  married William Jones
District    Cirencester, Gloucestershire   December 1840  Vol 11 Page    0349

Name  George Coole  married Elizabeth Knight or Jane Maysey 
District    Cirencester, Gloucestershire  June 1841  Vol 11 Page 301


Found the family living in Cheese Lane Philip and Jacob  in 1851  George is a Brass founder and his wife noted as Esther Cole  born Philip and Jacob 1812.  Can't seem to find them thereafter.

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HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER.  (Hants)
All GLS/Glam/Brks: TOVEY,  WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM.  MARSHALL, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES  COOMBES, TOMBS.
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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 December 15 19:50 GMT (UK) »
I've tried a wildcard search on FreeBMD for surname Osb* and first names Est* and Hest*, and haven't come up with anything.

Maybe they didn't actually marry? I've been looking for my 3xgreat-grandparents' marriage around a similar time, and despite trying every possible spelling, I can't find it. Yet they are listed as husband and wife on the census, and their son's birth certificate calls the mother "Hannah Moul formerly Fincham", implying they're married. I've pretty much given up hope, and assumed that either a marriage never took place or for some reason has escaped being registered with the GRO.
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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 December 15 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking, Claire, Gene and Capetown,  Could well be they never married,  another point maybe the marriage was never registered??

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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Did they marry?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 December 15 21:14 GMT (UK) »
You might have to do a search of the Bristol PR's for the marriage.
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