Cornelius Hayes father of Bernard Hayes b.1844 Tipperary

[ejjhayes]

I'm seeking any information someone might have regarding a Cornelius Hayes and his son Bernard (occasionally referred to as Bryan in family stories) Hayes born 1844 in Tipperary.

I've come to a dead end and can't seem to locate any details about Bernard's birth which his 1901 census records as ~1844 in Tipperary or much about his parents except that his father was Cornelius, a bookkeeper. Bernard married Margaret Terney in Yorkshire in 1866. A son also named Cornelius and Margaret both died in childbirth. He remarried to Mag Carroll in 1887 and had three sons in Carlow. We've hit a brick wall trying to go back any further.

There is a Hayes branch with the same family names from Tipperary that emigrated to Australia that seems definitely related but I cannot find the connection. If anyone has any information it would be much appreciated. Thanks for any help you can give!

[hallmark]

If they were RC  maybe try  registers.nli.ie

[conahy calling]

Welcome to Rootschat Ejjhayes

Link  My ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=498742.0

Link for Ireland Civil Registration indexes.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

Registration of births and deaths commenced 1864.   

Conahy

[ejjhayes]

Thanks Conahy. Unfortunately without any more information besides a name narrowing down which Cornelius Hayes the death records refer to has turned out to be nearly impossible. It wasn't an uncommon name in Tipperary in the 1800s. There are several possibilities I've found but again no way to narrow it down or tie a death record to my Cornelius. Any suggestions on how to do that would be appreciated. The only information I have is that Cornelius Hayes is listed a Bernard's father on both his marriage certificates and his occupation is bookkeeper. Sadly unless someone else knows something about him or can find Bernard's baptism I think I'm stuck.

[hallmark]

If they were RC  maybe try  registers.nli.ie

[conahy calling]

http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0281

Link for Tipperary RC parish registers.

Tipperary could refer to County Tipperary or Tipperary Town

http://registers.nli.ie/#home_map

General link for RC parish registers.

[Maggsie]

Helloooooo,
I found him, it took a bit of looking but I have him and all the family.
On his birth record the mother and father were not recorded.
I will get all the info ready for you and send it via Private Message.
Maggsie

[ejjhayes]

Thanks Maggsie! That's great news!

[anniebelle]

I don't know if there is any connection with your Cornelius Hayes but I can give you some information on my ancestors, Cornelius Hayes and his wife Honora, nee Kennedy. Both emigrated from Ireland to Australia arriving in Victoria on 29 Apr, 1854 per "Merchantman" as Assisted Immigrants with four children aged between 4 years and 16 years.  They gave their native places as Co Tipperary.  Honora's brother, Roger Kennedy, had emigrated to Aust with his wife, Mary Egan per 'Strathfieldsaye' in 1839.
My research indicates that Cornelius and Honora were married c1836 Kilmore, North Co Tipperary. I have no information for the parents of Cornelius and I understand it is unlikely that I will find his baptism records c1816 nor Honora Kennedy's records for c1817.There is a record of the baptism of Mary Ann Hayes on 12 Apr, 1837 in Nenagh and Roger Hayes bapt on 28 Jul, 1847 in Kilcommon, both the children of Cornelius Hayes and Honora Kennedy. I know that Honora's parents were Michael Kennedy and Honora Kennedy (nee Kennedy).
This may only be of benefit to you in locating that my Cornelius was in the Nenagh/Kilmore area in the event you know where your Cornelius was from.