location of village?

[rgee]

Can anyone help me locate where or was a place called Hidede in Gloucestershire. I am trying to trace my GG Grandmothers birth cert. All documents i have including marr. cert says she was born in Bristol but they have no birth reg, under her name, Elizabeth Dudley Powell, fathers name on marr. cert. is given as Thomas. The only other trace i can find under her name and about the right age is on the 1881 Census RG11/3010 where place born is given as Hidede, but i have not been able to find its location, can anyone tell me where it is?
Many thanks
rgee

[CaroleW]

Suspect it's Hidcote

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PV-SKS

[CaroleW]

Finally found the full entry - shown as just Elizabeth.  However, father is John occ platelayer but grandfather is Thomas Willoughby

RG9 Piece 2237 Folio 70 Page 5

[rgee]

CaroleW
Many thanks for your help, will find which reg. office that comes under and check for cert. On her marr. cert. her father was a home missionary but that was in 1883. I wonder if that's were her son was born, in 1879, as i have yet to find his birth, yet again everything i have for him, including police record, says he was born in Bristol, but no record of him there, under Powell, or Bigham, mums married name. He was born 4 years before the marriage so that's the next problem to solve, what surname was he given at birth?
Just one little problem with that info you have so kindly found for me, where and how do i input it to find the record that you found, can't seem to find where to enter it, put it down to my age.
Many thanks again
rgee

[CaroleW]

Hi

On the 1861 search page,  scroll down until you see the boxes for piece number, folio and page number and just fill them in from the reference above.  Alternatively, just search for Thomas Willoughby who (I think) was 83 in 1861

I'm on my iPad at the moment and have problems accessing otherwise I would post it for you

[Capetown]

There is a previous thread on Rootschat 2011 re: Sarah POWELL born Great Hidcote - father John POWELL - and gives this marriage from IGI

John POWELL married Hannah WILLOWBY - 18 October 1842 - Bidford-on-Avon, Warwickshire

and quotes this census returns

1861 Census for Ebrington Glos

Thomas WILLOUGHBY - 82 - born Churchill Oxon
John POWELL - 41 - son-in-law plate layer b Worcs Imbleton
Hannah - 39 - dtr
Charles 11 g/son
Anna - 9
Selina - 4
Elizabeth - 2

1851 for all b Ebrington except Thomas & John

Thomas WILLOUGHBY - 73 - Indexed as Willaby) b Churchill
John POWELL - 33 - son-in-law b Pebelton Worcs
Ann - 30
John - 10
Thomas - 7
Mary A - 5
Sarah - 3
Charles - 1
William EDEN - 3 nephew


On the Forest of Dean website the marriage of Elizabeth Dudley POWELL and John BINGHAM has been transcribed from the parish register entry - and states the marriage was by Licence.  This Licence may hold more clues

3 January 1883 at Chepstow

John BIGHAM - aged 24, labourer of this parish
father: William BIGHAM - storekeeper

Elizabeth Dudley POWELL - aged 27, spinster of this parish
father: Thomas POWELL - home missionary

married by: Licence

witnesses: Robt JONES - Kate BALL

re: WILLOUGHBY mentioned in previous message

Gloucestershirebdm

POWELL, Elizabeth
Father's surname: POWELL
Mother's surname: POWELL
Mother's former name: WILLOUGHBY

1859, NORTH Cotswolds, Shipston-on-Stour, Chipping Campden

siblings: mother's maiden name: WILLOUGHBY

Thomas - 1845
Mary A - 1845
Charles - 1849
Sarah - 1847
Selina - 1856

witnesses: Robt JONES and Kate BALL

[rgee]

Many Thanks CaroleW for your help, found census page by searching for Thomas Willoughby could not find search page for census that gave me place for ref, details.
The only thing i did notice is that on the census it gives the impression that her fathers name is John where on her marriage cert. his name is given as Thomas.
regards
rgee
tried to attach copy of marriage cert. but file to large, will try again if i can make it smaller.

[rgee]

Hi Capetown.
Many thanks for your help, how did you find all this, i have been looking for a number of years now, on and off. I have a copy of the marriage cert. purchased it in 2008 the date of marriage was 3rd June 1883, John Bigham to Elizabeth Dudley Powell, and the rest of marriage info is the same as given.
What i really want to find is the birth record/cert of their oldest son Frederick James Bigham, my G Grandfather, born abt 1879, it appears he was born out of wedlock, all papers for him says he was born in Bristol, but unable to find any record, i was hoping if i found elizabeth's parents he might have been with them, a long shot i know.
Regards
rgee

[Capetown]

This marriage transcript (the marriage took place on the 3 June 1883) not January as I stated

is on the

Forest of Dean Family History website

http://www.forest-of-dean.net

The records also list the children's baptism at Chepstow


John & Eliza BIGHAM


(briefly)

Harriett Margaret (Margaretta) Dudley - 1889 (3 January) John was a Watchman living at Foundry Cottage
Alexander Henry - 1889 (3 January) ditto
David Wallace 1890 (16 October 1890)  (John Eliz(abe)th - living at Wye Valley Cottage



The family appear to be non-conformist i.e. Thomas POWELL was a home missionary -

You just have to register to have access to the records.

The middle name of DUDLEY is surely a family name which needs more research e.g.

On the CLDS website eg.

Robert Dudley Powell was christened 12 November 1886 at Bristol, parents Thomas Frederic Powell and Annie Louisa.

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1881 Census, Colmore Row, Birmingham

Elizabeth D POWELL - aged 23, Single, Servant Housemaid (Domestic) born Hidede, Gloucestershire


Thomas WILLOUGHBY (labourer) and Ann (from my Baptism CD after 1813) were having children christened at Ebrington, Gloucester - they lived at Hitcote

Ann - 25 February 1815
Hester - 8 June 1817
Hannah - 31 January 1820
Lavinia - July 1825
Martha - 6 April 1823


Marriage Index CD
at Ebrington

Emma WILLOWBY married Thomas EDEN - 16 July 1836 (hence they child is on the 1841 census)

Mary Ann WILLOUGHBY married James FLETCHER - 13 October 1828