NSW Newspaper Death Notice Look ups 1980's

[cando]

Photos of headstones are available on request from Kym.  Wonderful service.

Please note the cemetery, name,  photo number and the file number
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~deadsearch/cemetery_index.htm
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HADAD Milhim [William] 1980 Age 83, Matilda 2000 age 91 years.  8124/11

RUMBIS Peter  1985  65 years   7587/6

RUMBUS Olga  1915-1998   1334/13
   
Cando

[cando]

Another seeking similar information.

I am looking for information about the following sisters who emigrated from New Zealand to Australia. I would love to be able to find out more about there life in Australia, obtain copies of family photos and/or a photo of there final resting place.

Matilda JOHNS - believe she married a person named Milhem HADDAD. Believe she emigrated to and died at Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia.

Olga Johns - believe she married a person with the surname BETAR. First name(s) unknown. Believe she also emigrated to and died at Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia.

They had 6 other siblings.

* Julian Richard JOHNS (approx 1907-approx 1994)
* Michael James JOHNS (approx 1911-approx 1951)
* Julia JOHNS (approx 1913-approx 1999)
* Angela JOHNS (approx 1919-approx 2000)
* Gloria Rose JOHNS (approx 1925-approx 1998)
* Clara JOHNS/Greta Clare JOHNS (approx 1927-approx 1984)

There parents were Richard JOHNS who was born about 1886 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia and died on approx. 05 Feb 1957 in Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand. There mother was Amelia SARDE who was born in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia and died on approx 05 March 1957 in Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand. Richard and Amelia were married on approx 03 November 1905 in Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia. This information was obtained from the birth certificate of there last child, so I still have to confirm dates and places of these events.



I cannot find a marriage in WA.
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

Some variations in given names for Richard.

Block 194 Plot 48 was purchase by George JOHNS in 1951

Buried at Anderson Bay Cemetery  Block 194  Plot 48

JOHNS Amelia  67 years  [Headstone has her as Amelia Efifi JOHNS]
Date of Death    5 Mar 1957  Date of burial  6 Mar 1957
Last Address    65 Carroll Street, Dunedin
Funeral Director    Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Occupation:- Widow
Native of:- Lebanon
Years in NZ:- 52 years
Place died Dunedin

1957/23293   
JOHNS Afifi       67 years

JOHNS Richard Michael  70 years    [The headstone has Richard George JOHNS]
Date of Death    5 Feb 1957  Date of burial 7 Feb 1957
Last Address    65 Carroll Street, Dunedin
Funeral Director    Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Cemetery    ANDERSONS BAY CEMETERY
Location    Block 194. Plot 48
Occupation:- Optician
Native of:- Australia
Years in NZ 60 years
Place died Dunedin

1957/21119   
JOHNS George 70 years

JOHNS Michael James 40 years
Date of Death    31 Aug 1951  Date of burial 3 Sep 1951
Last Address 65 Carroll Street
Funeral Director    Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Occupation:- Traveller
Native of NZ
Years in NZ 40 years
Place died Dunedin

1951/29076   
JOHNS    Michael James       40 years

SORTEHAUG Anthony  15 months
Date of Death  16 Jun 1958  Date of burial 17 Jun 1958
Last Address 126 Maitland Street, Dunedin
Funeral Director    Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Occupation Infant
Native of  NZ
Place died Dunedin

Julian JOHNS in the absence of his father 'gave away' Olga at her marriage.

Births
1907/18271   
JOHNS   Julian    
Mother Amelia   Father George

1915/28023   
JOHNS    Olga    
Mother Amelia  Father George

It would appear that Richard George/Michael and Amelia did not register all the births of their children.

Cando

Edit to add name from headstone.

[Lucy2]

Another seeking similar information.

There parents were Richard JOHNS who was born about 1886 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia and died on approx. 05 Feb 1957 in Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand. There mother was Amelia SARDE who was born in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia and died on approx 05 March 1957 in Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand. Richard and Amelia were married on approx 03 November 1905 in Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia. This information was obtained from the birth certificate of there last child, so I still have to confirm dates and places of these events.


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I cannot find a marriage in WA.
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx

From a family tree published at ancestry.com website >

Re:   Amelia JOHNS
--  Afifi SAADI - b. c. 1890 at Beyrouth, Lebanon married Richard JOHNS about 23 July 1905 in Lebanon.

Tree has an attached copy of newspaper death notice (March 1957) for Amelia JOHNS ... wife of the late George ... (includes names of her 8 children ).

   ~  Lu

[cando]

The source of the marriage information is not mentioned in the online tree.

I am hoping there death notices might better assist me with research into these 2 sisters as I don't know to much about them, there husbands or children.

There are numerous files on NAA for William and Matilda
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

There are many mentions about William and Matilda in the Broken Hill newspapers of the day.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper  Search using HADAD and NSW.

A few...

This is the marriage of William's sister.  Confirmed by her death and funeral notices.

7084/1931     
NADIFF    Cahill H    
HADAD Ranee    
District Broken Hill

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141734890    1941
NATURALISATION NOTICE I WILLIAM HADAD. of 64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill (nationality Lebanese), born at Mt. Lebanon. Syria, and residing seventeen years In Australia, now residing at 64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill, New .South Wales, intend to apply for NATURALIZATION Under the Nationality Act, 1020-1926. '

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141690219  1948
Mrs M HADAD purchased a business

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article141239085    22 Feb 1950
Miss Julia Johns, of Dunedin, New Zealand has arrived in Broken Hill for a visit to her sister, Mrs. M. Hadad, of 64 Iodide Street.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/cite/16302933/141442091  1952
Engagement of Mr and Mrs HADAD’s daughter

Search the female HADAD marriages at Broken Hill on NSW BDM
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx

Australian Electoral Roll
1933
HADAD Matilda  135 Oxide Street, Broken Hill   HD

1935
HADAD Matilda Johns  346 Mica Street, Broken Hill  HD

1958
HADAD Matilda  64 Iodide Street  Broken Hill  HD
HADAD William  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  Shopkeeper

1963
HADAD Anthony Brian  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  Motor Mechanic
HADAD Matilda  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD William  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  Shopkeeper

1968
HADAD Anthony Brian  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  Motor Mechanic
HADAD June Phyllis  32 Iodide Street Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Matilda  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD William  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  No occupation

1977
HADAD Anthony Brian  32 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  Motor Mechanic
HADAD June Phyllis  32 Iodide Street Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Matilda  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Sheree Marie  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD William  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  No occupation

1980
HADAD Anthony Brian  460 Crystal Street Broken Hill  Motor Mechanic
HADAD June Phyllis 460 Crystal Street  Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Matilda  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Margaret Marguerita Joan 576 Silica Street, Broken Hill  HD
HADAD Sheree Marie  64 Iodide Street, Broken Hill  HD

A glowing version of William's life .   Wife Matilda not even mentioned!!
http://goose-view.com/immigrationplace/story/wilham-william-hadad/

Photo of their headstone with their children named.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gqj/

Cando

[cando]

Olga's headstone with children named.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gqk/

Peter RUMBIS is buried in another section of the cemetery.

Joseph stated he was born 30 Aug 1898 Illinois, USA however he travelled to Australia on a Syrian passport.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=1506368&S=5&T=P

The 1900 US Census shows Joseph born 1896 and a sister born 1894 [both born Chicago] living with parents Abdo and Libby [both born Syria] in Chicago.

Some of the snippets from TROVE...you can search for more if you wish
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

Joseph in a spot of bother in Taree in 1932
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article161985075

Joseph a fruiterer in Broken Hill in 1934
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article49517273

In a spot of bother in Broken Hill 1938
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47980946

Poor quality photo of the BETAR-JOHNS marriage in 1938
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47969982

His WW2 service summary - now born 12 Apr 1897  the file has been digitised on     http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=726844

Australian Electoral Roll
1943, 1949
BETAR Joseph Abdoo  108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  Carrier
BETAR Olga  108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  HD

Sale of Joseph's business by the executors of his estate 1946
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article48478362

1958, 1963,
RUMBIS Olga 108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  HD
RUMBIS Peter 108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  Carpenter

1968
RUMBIS Olga 108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  HD
RUMBIS Peter  15 Garnet Street, Broken Hill  Carpenter

1980
RUMBIS Olga  108 Oxide Street HD
RUMBIS Peter 112 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  Carpenter
RUMBUS John  108 Oxide Street, Broken Hill  Salesman

There are three files for Petras RUMBIS, born 1919, Lithuanian, arrived  Australia 1948 on
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

Cando

[cando]

 JOHNS Richard Michael  70 years    [The headstone has Richard George JOHNS]
Date of Death    5 Feb 1957  Date of burial 7 Feb 1957
Last Address    65 Carroll Street, Dunedin
Funeral Director    Hugh Gourley Ltd, Grant Street, DUNEDIN
Cemetery    ANDERSONS BAY CEMETERY
Location    Block 194. Plot 48
Occupation:- Optician
Native of:- Australia
Years in NZ 60 years
Place died Dunedin

1957/21119   
JOHNS George 70 years    

From the Dunedin City Council this am.

Thank you for bringing this error to our attention.  We have now amended our records accordingly, with Richard Michael JOHNS being amended to Richard George JOHNS as per the headstone.

Please note that our public website will not show the change immediately.

Cando

[MyAngel1920]

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[cando]

May I ask if your post is relevant to this thread?

If you need help with research in Australia I suggest you start a new topic and give all the relevant information?  Please note that we are not permitted to post information about living or possible living people.

Cheers 
Cando

[MyAngel1920]

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