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William John Eve, born 1855
« on: Monday 21 December 15 12:48 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find out what happened to William John Eve born 1855 in Whitechapel. He was the son of William Robert Eve and Elisabeth Drake.

He married Alice Parsons on 2nd August 1885 in St. Philips in Stepney. They had 2 children, Alice Elizabeth born 1887 and Thomas born 1890 both in Whitechapel.

I can't find any trace of his death. Alice is in the 1901 census as the wife of Alfred Reinsford, along with her daughter Alice and 3 Reinsford children, Florrie age 3, Beatrice age 1 and Hector age 3 months.

I can't find a marriage between Alice and Alfred Reinsford (sometimes transcribed as Ransford) either.

Any info that will get me past this brick wall will be gratefully received.

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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 December 15 13:10 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this could be him in 1893?

William John Eve born abt 1856 Flour porter admitted to Mile End Old Town Workhouse 20th Sept 1893. That's about 2 miles from Whitechapel.
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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 December 15 13:27 GMT (UK) »
I wondered about that chap as well. I think (next page) on the admittance record it says "deemed insane"?

There's a Wiliam John EVE on the 1901 as a patient in the London Lunatic Asylum who's a Labourer in a flour mill-but says born Sheerness. I don't see a birth for anyone of that name in Kent around that time??

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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 December 15 13:47 GMT (UK) »
William John Eve was a flour carman on Alice Elizabeth's baptism in 1887; carman on Thomas' baptism in 1890.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 December 15 13:55 GMT (UK) »
An earlier son for the couple:

William George Eve, born 16 July 1886, baptised 8 August 1886 at St Philip, Stepney.

Parents: William John Eve, miller, and Alice, of 27 Devonshire St, Globe Rd.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 December 15 13:57 GMT (UK) »
There is a death for a William John Eve in Romford in 1903, age is out by 2 years.  :-\

The asylum mentioned in 1901 census record is in Romford.


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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 December 15 14:02 GMT (UK) »
Likely deaths for the two sons:

William George Eve aged 3, Dec qtr 1889 Whitechapel

Thomas Eve aged 0, Jun qtr 1891 Whitechapel.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 December 15 14:21 GMT (UK) »
The flour connection and the combination of names looks promising.
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Re: William John Eve, born 1855
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 December 15 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Dave26 on Monday 21 December 15 12:48 GMT (UK)

I can't find a marriage between Alice and Alfred Reinsford (sometimes transcribed as Ransford) either.


I can't either  :(  tried dates between 1891 - birth of first daughter 1897

Florence Agnes Reinsford born    19th Oct 1897
Baptism Date:   14 Nov 1897 St George in the East
Alfred Richard Reinsford, occ waiter & Alice

1891 RG12; Piece: 282; Folio: 115; Page: 20
Alice EVE age 28 and her two children Alice 3 & Thomas 9 mths
are with her parents Thomas & Elizabeth PARSONS,
she appears to be noted as ‘M’ (married)

ADDED

This looks to be her death entry

Alice Reinsford age 73 Mar 1941 Stepney Volume:   1c Page:   288


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