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1939 National Register
« on: Saturday 19 December 15 17:50 GMT (UK) »
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Both my father (b 1928) and his sister (b 1932) have died.  My father died long enough ago that he should be in the 1939 National Register but he's not.  His sister died 2011.

Yes, I know I could produce the death certs and ask FindMyPast to arrange the release of both but neither of them were at home. FindMyPast will only check for the expected home address, no other.  IF they had been they would have shown up as "two more officially closed". Only my grandparents are listed.

I have no idea where my aunt was but my father may already have been sent to relatives.  I know he was evacuated to Bridgwater, Somerset.

Does anyone know if there is anyway of finding out the families evacuees went to?

If there isn't a way, I'll have to wait until 2029 and 2033 to find the answer.

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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 December 15 18:02 GMT (UK) »
You could always make a FoI request via the National Archives, other than his names and sex, they only require the County he would be in at the time the 39 register was taken rather than the full address plus the proof of death & fee.
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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 December 15 18:32 GMT (UK) »
You could always make a FoI request via the National Archives, other than his names and sex, they only require the County he would be in at the time the 39 register was taken rather than the full address plus the proof of death & fee.

Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately I don't know where he was.  I know he was in Somerset but not the date he was sent there.  He had family in London, Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire.

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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 January 16 19:18 GMT (UK) »
You say they are not in the register but it's not possible to determine that with certainty. The most likely possibility is that the name is mis-spelt. If you know the date of birth, just search on that along with first name or maybe birthplace. There will be lots of possibles to search through but the correct one may well jump out at you with a mangled surname. The next likelihood is that their death wasn't recorded in the register, as you say you'd have to wait until their 100th birthday to find them then.
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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 January 16 23:05 GMT (UK) »
You say they are not in the register but it's not possible to determine that with certainty. The most likely possibility is that the name is mis-spelt. If you know the date of birth, just search on that along with first name or maybe birthplace. There will be lots of possibles to search through but the correct one may well jump out at you with a mangled surname. The next likelihood is that their death wasn't recorded in the register, as you say you'd have to wait until their 100th birthday to find them then.

Thank you for your reply.

Both my father and his sister will be in the National Register somewhere

Searching on the DoB produces no results because they were both born less than 100 years ago so the records are officially sealed.  Searching on given name but no surname produces no results for the same reason. If the surname has been mis-spelled, I've no way of knowing which of the 22 alternatives has been used or if a new one has been created.

My father should be included because he died well before the cut off date.  His sister died recently so she won't be there.  She also married.  I tried her under both her maiden and married names.  Again, no results.

I suspect that if I find one, I'll find both.

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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 January 16 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Under the previous system the 1939 Register Team of The Health and Social Care Information Centre would likely have found them with name and date of birth. The HSCIC service was discontinued because FindMyPast were supposed to take over that role. I got my uncle's record from HSCIC I knew he was an evacuee in Wales but didn't know where exactly. Name and date of birth was enough to find him. Incidently his record is still closed on FindMyPast's 1939 Register.


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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 January 16 09:22 GMT (UK) »
What dates did they die? It seems that Findmypast have started matching up records from the 1939 register with the death index (which goes up to 2007), so if your father and aunt died before 2007 there's a chance that their records have been opened since you last searched, or will be opened soon.

Your aunt should appear with her maiden name in brackets after her married name, and searching for either surname should work (provided her record isn't still closed).
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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 January 16 09:49 GMT (UK) »
The Register will only show those people who have died, where the death was notified to the people running the Register (until 1991).

Apparently some deaths weren't notified?
Hospital deaths may have been lost "in the system"?
Some doctors, not wishing to lose their Government grants, "forgot" to notify some deaths?!
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Re: 1939 National Register
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 January 16 10:10 GMT (UK) »
The Register will only show those people who have died, where the death was notified to the people running the Register (until 1991).




I wonder why my mother's record is open.......she died in 2002!


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