Looking for my grandmother's brothers - JONES?

[jfrancis8912]

He was born 1929 so was too young to have served in WW2

But people faked it! Some were found out....some weren't.

[CaroleW]

If he was in France or Germany it would have been WW2

Known as Ken.

The death in Yorkshire in 1995 was for a Charles Kenneth Jones and there is a Charles K Jones birth in 1929 in Liverpool.    Without further investigation I would be wary of linking this death to the person you are looking for

If you have access to the BMD register - you may want to consider searching for details of children born to Cecil's marriage

A caution we give everybody - don't believe everything you read in others family trees.  Many are badly researched and we recommend you build on your own knowledge and research from that info

[CaroleW]

Re: Cecil - suggest you look at the 1955 marriage in Hereford.  Details cannot be posted here

[CaroleW]

But I defiantly do know that he had 4 children from his first marriage (2 boys and 2 girls I think) and he married a second time 1980 Dorothy E Garroway Cole (I got told by a relation of Dorothy's about the kids and the marriage to Dorothy).

That marriage was Charles Kenneth Jones

[Ladyhawk]

Charles Jones 1902-1965 Married 1926 Ivy Annie Chambers 1903-1934.
Charles Re-Married in about 1943.

- Evan Jack Jones 10.01.1927-2005. - Not sure of death date is correct.
- Cecil Charles Jones 08.05.1929-07.05.1995 - Known as Ken.
- Beryl Jones 1931-1952. - Died without Marrying. - my grandmother stayed in touch with her.
- George William Jones 06.03.1933-1988. - Not sure of death date is correct.
- My Grandmother 1934-.

Have you looked on FreeBMD

CaroleW asked whether mmn Chambers

Birth Reg Kington
The district Kington spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester and Radnorshire

Dec 1927 Evan J
Jun 1929 Cecil C
Mar 1931 Beryl I
Mar 1933 William G
Jun 1934

Is this their mother’s death, married as Ivy A Chambers Sep 1927 to C Jones

Annie I Jones age 31 Jun 1934 Kington Herefordshire Volume: 6a Page:   609

Evan J Jones Mother's Maiden Surname:   Chambers
Oct-Nov-Dec 1927 Kington Volume 6a Page  704

Could this be Evan Jack Jones' death entry?

Jack Jones age 78 Birth Date: 10 Jan 1927
Sep 2005   Kington Herefordshire, Radnorshire
Register Number:   20D District and Subdistrict:   518/1 Entry Number:   11

Do you know what Beryl's middle initial 'I' stood for ?

Not the correct birth year (1931) but there is this death entry

Iris Beryl Jones age 70 born 16 Mar 1933
Date of Registration:   Apr 2003 Bromyard Herefordshire
Register Number:   24C District and Subdistrict:   513/1 Entry Number:   148

Haven't located a birth in Mar qtr. 1933 for Iris B or Iris Beryl Jones on FreeBMD
 

[DavidG02]

He was born 1929 so was too young to have served in WW2

But people faked it! Some were found out....some weren't.

He may well have served in the Occupation Army after WW2

[KellyMarie1992]

But I defiantly do know that he had 4 children from his first marriage (2 boys and 2 girls I think) and he married a second time 1980 Dorothy E Garroway Cole (I got told by a relation of Dorothy's about the kids and the marriage to Dorothy).

That marriage was Charles Kenneth Cole

That is what I don't understand because I said that to the person I got the tree off but he said it was deffinatly Cecil Charles which is why I only wrote it down and not put it on my tree.

[KellyMarie1992]

Charles Jones 1902-1965 Married 1926 Ivy Annie Chambers 1903-1934.
Charles Re-Married in about 1943.

- Evan Jack Jones 10.01.1927-2005. - Not sure of death date is correct.
- Cecil Charles Jones 08.05.1929-07.05.1995 - Known as Ken.
- Beryl Jones 1931-1952. - Died without Marrying. - my grandmother stayed in touch with her.
- George William Jones 06.03.1933-1988. - Not sure of death date is correct.
- My Grandmother 1934-.

Have you looked on FreeBMD

CaroleW asked whether mmn Chambers

Birth Reg Kington
The district Kington spans the boundaries of the counties of Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester and Radnorshire

Dec 1927 Evan J
Jun 1929 Cecil C
Mar 1931 Beryl I
Mar 1933 William G
Jun 1934

Is this their mother’s death, married as Ivy A Chambers Sep 1927 to C Jones

Annie I Jones age 31 Jun 1934 Kington Herefordshire Volume: 6a Page:   609

Evan J Jones Mother's Maiden Surname:   Chambers
Oct-Nov-Dec 1927 Kington Volume 6a Page  704

Could this be Evan Jack Jones' death entry?

Jack Jones age 78 Birth Date: 10 Jan 1927
Sep 2005   Kington Herefordshire, Radnorshire
Register Number:   20D District and Subdistrict:   518/1 Entry Number:   11

Do you know what Beryl's middle initial 'I' stood for ?

Not the correct birth year (1931) but there is this death entry

Iris Beryl Jones age 70 born 16 Mar 1933
Date of Registration:   Apr 2003 Bromyard Herefordshire
Register Number:   24C District and Subdistrict:   513/1 Entry Number:   148

Haven't located a birth in Mar qtr. 1933 for Iris B or Iris Beryl Jones on FreeBMD

This was the trouble I had with Beryl my nan thought she died in 1952 but was a long time ago so she might of got her mixed up with someone else.

This is the same information I have for Evan Jack but way i can't understand is why his birth is January and the registration is Oct-Dec.

I'm not sure what the I would stand for but i'd assume it was Ivy after her mother. - I don't even know if beryl married that might make her Surname on the death completely different.

[DavidG02]

Kelly

Don't be disheartened , you are doing a wonderful thing for your grandmother and I hope we can help.

Just take with a pinch of salt those items on Family Trees. Don't discard them but use them , as you are now , as guideposts to show the way.

And the hardest piece of advice is to also temper what your grandmother says. Her memories are 70 years old , and let me tell you us oldies sometimes mix things around , even when we swear they are gospel. Once again use what she says as helpers but be critical at times.