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Re: 95 Clifton Street Manchester 1911 and 1926
« Reply #18 on: Monday 21 December 15 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi harleyqueen,

Okay, not great news.  I've had a look for 95 Clifton Street, Manchester on the ER's at Central.  There are three Clifton Street's in Manchester: -  Municipal Wards within Withington, Crumpsall and Miles Platting.  Crumpsall & Miles Platting are in North Manchester so I did not check them,  but that is not to say he did not live in North Manchester.  The house numbers on Clifton Street in Withington did not go as high as # 95. Sorry. My feeling is that he must have been living at a Clifton Street in Salford.  For these ER's you would need to check with Salford Local Studies Library they are not kept at Central. If you were planning to visit you have to book an appointment as they are only open something like 1 day a week due to staff shortages.

Looking at the 1939 Register index - Alexander Douglas is in Urmston in 1939 and Leslie SH is in Stretford. Both these are South Manchester. So I guess this Queenie must have lived locally ?
Also, I have revisited the information to do with the Auntie, Edith LEAH Higginson.  The marriage I found for an Edith Higginson and James Shaylor is not correct.  That Edith is more than likely Edith EMILY Higginson b. 1887 Barton on Irwell (which is Salford).  Shaylor & Higginson only seem to have one son: William. So this definitely doesn't match your information.

However, there is a marriage in 1911 for an Edith L Higginson and a William Smith (sorry about than  :(  )  West Derby, Register office or Registrar attended  so that cert. might be worth buying. Trouble is looking for any children for this couple is tricky partly because of the Smith name and partly because I am not sure (if or when) they left West Derby for the Salford/Manchester area.
I would just like to suggest however,  the following:  I have just looked at the marriage certificate for  Alexander Parker and Edith Skellon. (Note the church although in Manchester is on the boarder with Salford) I notice that Edith says she lived at LORN St.  I've looked this up on a map and there is a LORNE Street in Salford and nearby is a CLIFFORD St. So I wonder when you get a chance to check the ER's for Salford if you might need to consider also looking for Clifford Street as well as a Clifton Street? I can't find a Clifton Street in Salford on a modern map but that's not to say there wasn't one in 1926!

So sadly we are still left with your original problem of who was Queenie!  Sorry my search was not fruitful!

Kind regards,
CD

PS - I've done a search on the 1939 register (just for the heck of it) for a Queenie in Salford!  There are 9.  The oldest dob is 1904 the youngest is 1917.  None are the right age for your 'Queenie'.

Hi California dreamin

What can I say " Thank you so much " for the information and guidance on how to proceed.
The advice re the information on the  marriage certificate  could be very helpful so I shall make an appointment to go to Salford.

The grandson of Lavinia went to Salford   a few weeks ago to check something on another family member and he was told that not many records were available as they had a fire a fire several years ago and lots of items were lost, so here's hoping the 1926 Electoral lists survived.

I shall pass this information on to the grandson of Lavinia who I am sure will be grateful for all your hard work and effort

My sincere thanks for all your help

kind Regards

Harleyqueen



 

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Re: 95 Clifton Street Manchester 1911 and 1926
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 22 December 15 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi harleyqueen,

No problem.  Why don't you email them and ask if the have the ER's for 1926? I'm only presupposing that the Clifton Street mentioned on the marriage certificate was in Salford. If you find out there wasn't one, definitely look up 95 Clifford Street just in case.
http://www.salfordcommunityleisure.co.uk/culture/salford-museum-and-art-gallery/local-history

I know they are v. short staffed.  In fact I think they just have one person now, but maybe they'll do a look up for you? It never hurts to ask  :)

Kind regards
CD

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Re: 95 Clifton Street Manchester 1911 and 1926
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 23 December 15 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi California Dreamin

Thanks for the reply,

I never thought of emailing them, I will get that done and if they are unable to do a look up will make an appointment for the New Year,

many thanks

Harleyqueen

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Re: 95 Clifton Street Manchester 1911 and 1926
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I have read through this interesting thread - did you know there is a Manchester/Salford directory for 1929 on Ancestry?

It only has three entries for Clifton St in Salford (45,47 and 2) but there is also a Clifton St in Stretford which would probably be the nearest Clifton St to St George's Church in Hulme.

There is a William Smith listed at 95 Clifton St in 1929 - could he be the same one that married Edith Higginson in 1911? As has been said, hard to be sure with a name like Smith!

I'm not sure where electoral rolls for Stretford in the 1920s would be, if not in Manchester - Trafford local studies maybe?

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: 95 Clifton Street Manchester 1911 and 1926
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara

I did not know that a Manchester/Salford Directory was available on Ancestry thank you for the information.
The information on Clifton Street Stretford sounds promising.
I will be going to Salford to check electoral registers early January so fingers crossed we find a connection.

Sincere thanks for your help

Kind regards

Harleyqueen