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Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« on: Monday 14 December 15 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi,  I assume that jewellery manufacture was learned by apprenticeship in the 1800s. 

I have a James Alfred PELL who made gold and silver jewellery in Goulburn in the 1880s and 1890s.  He was working for Mr Jerger, Jeweller in 1895 before apparently going into his own business in 1896.  He was known by his 2nd name, Alfred, and was born in Melbourne in 1859.

I would like to find out when and where he learned the Jewellery trade.
Thank you
Steve Nethercote
Melbourne, Australia
PELL: Northants, Leics, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada
NETHERCOAT: Northants, Leics, Australia
AIKENHEAD: Forfar, Kincardine
WAYTH: Suffolk, Australia
GUDGEON: Hants, Suffolk, Australia, New Zealand
LANGSFORD: Cornwall, New Zealand, Australia
SLAPP: Suffolk
OSBORNE: Suffolk

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Re: Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 15 01:50 GMT (UK) »
Do you know of a John PELL of Birmingham, in the Jewellry Trade.?

See: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2974414
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http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/65378770
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Re: Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 15 02:42 GMT (UK) »
I don't know John Pell of Birmingham. 

My Pells originate from Northamptonshire, particularly the parishes of Moulton, Oversone, Sywell and Clipston.
PELL: Northants, Leics, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada
NETHERCOAT: Northants, Leics, Australia
AIKENHEAD: Forfar, Kincardine
WAYTH: Suffolk, Australia
GUDGEON: Hants, Suffolk, Australia, New Zealand
LANGSFORD: Cornwall, New Zealand, Australia
SLAPP: Suffolk
OSBORNE: Suffolk

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Re: Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 15 07:40 GMT (UK) »
Did you want any other information about him?

There are some mentions on TROVE

Alfred James PELL, watchmaker, gave evidence at a trial in Goulburn 1890
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/102832871


There are some advertisements where Mr PELL was wanting to buy gold.  An example:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/104554303

Adding:  I'm not sure that you actually need a formal qualification to open a watch-maker or jewellry business, although there would have been apprenticeships.

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Re: Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 December 15 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith,
I have read trove carefully and I know a good deal about him and his family.  The biggest gap I have is in knowing how he got to be a "working jeweller" - ie a maker and repairer of jewellery.   It might explain how he got to move from Melbourne to Goulburn - which is another gap in my knowledge. 
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Steve   
PELL: Northants, Leics, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada
NETHERCOAT: Northants, Leics, Australia
AIKENHEAD: Forfar, Kincardine
WAYTH: Suffolk, Australia
GUDGEON: Hants, Suffolk, Australia, New Zealand
LANGSFORD: Cornwall, New Zealand, Australia
SLAPP: Suffolk
OSBORNE: Suffolk

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Re: Jewllery Apprenticeship, J A PELL
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 December 15 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Appears he was working as a Jeweller as far back as 1886.
The article mentions a Jeweller by the name of Mr Day of Goulburn, not sure if this would have been the person your fella was working for then or not.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/107315642?
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