Butler lookup in Marston St. Lawrence/Thenford

[ABTeacher]

Hello,

I'm trying to gain a toehold into Northamptonshire for my wife's family. I've traced her 4th great-grandfather Robert BUTLER to either Marston St. Lawrence or Thenford.

Robert was born about 1807, though it could certainly be a couple of years in either direction. Does anyone have access to the Northants baptism (and marriage index if possible) to clarify his baptism, parents and possible siblings? I'd like to know if it's worth me doing a ton of research here, or if the family were from other parts of England, and were just around for Robert's birth, etc.

It seems Robert married Mary LOVERIDGE in 1834 in Thenford and came to Canada soon after. Mary was born in ~1812, so I'm assuming the one baptized to William and Elizabeth in 1812, though I don't know if that was the only Loveridge family living there at the time.

My deep appreciation in advance. It has taken me several me many years to get back to England on this line, and hoping this can help solidify a connection.

Cheers,
Lucas McCaw

[sugarbakers]

Welcome to RootsChat.

This looks likely ...

Robert Butler s/o John & Sarah bpt 1806 Dec 27 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)

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Robert Butler otp = Love Williams of Farthingho 1827 Sep 10 Marston St Lawrence
Love Butler of Marston buried 1831 Nov 22 Marston St Lawrence CofE age 23
Robert Butler of Marston St Lawrence widower = Mary Loveridge otp 1834 Nov 3 Thenford

John Butler of Wappenham = Sarah Blencowe otp 1793 Oct 14 Middleton Cheney
Sarah Butler buried 1808 May 1 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry) age 46
John Butler otp widower = Mary Mayo otp 1811 Oct 15 Marston St Lawrence

(Sources: Northants Baptism Index, Northants Marriage Index, Northants Burial Index)

[sugarbakers]

Love Williams d/o Edward & Maria bpt 1810 Mar 11 Farthinghoe CofE
Mary Loveridge d/o William & Elizabeth bpt 1812 May 17 Thenford CofE is the only one suitable in the Index

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James Butler s/o John & Sarah bpt 1795 Dec 27 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)
Hannah Butler d/o John & Sarah bpt 1796 Sep 25 Marston St Lawrence CofE
Elizabeth Butler d/o John & Sarah bpt 1798 Mar 26 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)
Mary Butler d/o John & Sarah bpt 1800 Dec 14 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)
John Butler s/o John & Sarah bpt 1803 Jun 19 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry) ... buried 1813 Sep 6 age 10
Robert Butler s/o John & Sarah bpt 1806 Dec 27 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)

No obvious bpt for John Butler senior
Sarah Blencowe d/o Nathl & Theodora bpt 1762 Oct 31 Brackley CofE (b. evening of 5 Oct)
Sarah Blencowe d/o Francis bpt 1763 Jan 21 Brackley CofE
Mary Mayo d/o Thomas & Mary bpt 1767 Dec 13 Marston St Lawrence CofE (BT entry)

John Butler of Marston buried 1840 Oct 27 Marston St Lawrence CofE age 79
Mary Butler of Marston buried 1842 Oct 10 Marston St Lawrence age 75

(Sources: Northants Baptism Index, Northants Marriage Index, Northants Burial Index)

[ABTeacher]

WOW, I must my wife and her cousins are quite happy already. Shared the news this morning . You're helping to knock down a brick wall that we've had for years. Thank you so much for including the burial info for borth of John's wives! That solves a major question the family has had for a while now. I wish John Butler Sr. were a little more obvious (Marston perhaps?), but I guess Rome wasn't built in a day, eh?   I'm getting some family members to do DNA testing as well to confirm the paper trail.

I've done a  couple of quick searches and seem to have gone back a generation or two with Robert's second wife Mary Loveridge (my wife is descended from her).

Would it be too much to ask for the same type of lookup lookup of the following two people:

1. Thomas BERRY, born about 1761 in Chipping Warden (based on a burial year of 1843).

2. Sarah FARMER, born about 1760 in Chipping Warden (based on a burial year of 1826).

Thomas and Sarah married in 1785, and seem to have had 7 children between then and 1797. Their son William (born 1787) was Mary Loveride's (1812) father.

Thank you again, this is a wonderful early Christmas present for the family
Lucas McCaw
Edmonton, Canada

[ABTeacher]

Correction to the above...their daughter Elizabeth (1785) MARRIED William Loveridge, and was the mother of Mary Loveridge (1812)...LOL.

[sugarbakers]

My pleasure, Lucas ... I hope these help ...


Thomas Berry = Sarah Farmer botp 1785 May 4 Chipping Warden

Thomas Berry s/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1761 Apr 12 Chipping Warden CofE

Elizabeth Berry d/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1760 Feb 24 Chipping Warden CofE
Mary Berry d/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1762 Jun 6 Chipping Warden CofE
Ann Berry d/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1763 Nov 13 Chipping Warden CofE
Sarah Berry d/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1767 Sep 20 Chipping Warden CofE
Samuel Berry s/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1769 Mar 27 Chipping Warden CofE
John Berry s/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1772 Mar 15 Chipping Warden CofE
Richard Berry s/o Samuel & Ann bpt 1776 Jun 30 Chipping Warden CofE

No marriage found for Samuel & Ann, or bpt for Samuel.
Ann Berry widow buried 1802 Feb 12 Chipping Warden

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Sarah Farmer d/o John & Alice bpt 1759 Nov 5 Chipping Warden CofE

Mary Farmer d/o John & Alice bpt 1762 May 2 Chipping Warden CofE
Alice Farmer d/o John & Alice bpt 1764 May 16 Chipping Warden CofE
Susanna Farmer d/o John & Alice bpt 1766 Aug 17 Chipping Warden CofE (buried 1786 Dec 4)
John Farmer s/o John & Alice bpt 1769 Mar 12 Chipping Warden CofE
Elizabeth Farmer d/o John & Alice bpt 1772 Jan 6 Chipping Warden CofE
Hannah Farmor d/o John & Alice bpt 1777 Sep 3 Chipping Warden CofE

John Farmer otp labourer = Alice Eaton of Middleton Cheney 1758 Oct 23 Chipping Warden

No bpt for John Farmer or Alice Eaton.
John Farmer husband of Alice buried 1808 Sep 21 Chipping Warden CofE
Alice Farmer buried 1821 Jan 29 Chipping Warden CofE age 86

(Sources: Northants Baptism Index, Northants Marriage Index, Northants Burial Index)

[sugarbakers]

... you probably have these ...

Sarah Butler d/o Robert labourer & Love bpt 1828 Aug 24 Marston St Lawrence CofE

Anne Butler d/o Robert labourer & Mary bpt 1835 Dec 20 Marston St Lawrence CofE
Elizabeth Butler d/o Robert labourer & Mary bpt 1837 Aug 27 Marston St Lawrence CofE
William Butler s/o Robert labourer & Mary bpt 1839 Aug 25 Marston St Lawrence CofE
Rachel Butler d/o Robert labourer & Mary bpt 1842 Apr 22 Marston St Lawrence CofE

(Source: Northants Baptism Index)


FamilySearch has a couple of possibles for John Butler 1759 and 1763 in Oxfordshire. Might I suggest you try the Oxfordshire board on RC for those we are now stuck on.

[MarkTewk]

My wife's 3rd great grandmother is Phoebe Hannah Butler b abt 1795 Thenford, Northamptonshire.  Phoebe married James Smith on 19 October 1819 in Dallington, Northamptonshire.  My wife's 2nd great grandfather is William Butler Smith b 10 Jun 1831.

Phoebe is one of my brick walls - I've been unable to find details of Phoebe's parents but I can see a number of Butlers in Thenford in the census records.  Have you come across Phoebe in your travels through the Thenford records?

Any help would be appreciated.

[PrawnCocktail]

Hi Mark,

There is a Phoebe Butler in Thenford, born 15 Feb 1797 to William & Ann Butler, and baptised 11 June 1797

And there's a brother Elam baptsed 31 Dec 1798.

William and Ann were married in 1794 in Newbottle. Anc*** seem to have managed to miss the page they were on.     The Marriage index gives Ann's surname as Timns, and the BT as Times.