Author Topic: Help please, Australia birth 1902 Edward George Kitchener PLANE  (Read 14003 times)

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 12 December 15 08:26 GMT (UK) »
:)  :)  :)

I am fascinated with the last entry on the page .... Daisy, (TURNBULL) elder of twins,  she, like the other babies on this particular page was Not Present at the registry.   She was born 22 August 1902 and her birth registered 18th October 1902 ....   

  9 days left in August 1902
30 days in Sept 1902
18 days into Oct 1902

57 days after birth ..... what was the time allowed to register a birth in 1902 in Vic ....

Was Daisy's younger twin a boy or a girl ..... 

Cheers,  JM

Ummmmmmm not sure? Sorry

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 12 December 15 08:49 GMT (UK) »
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57 days after birth ..... what was the time allowed to register a birth in 1902 in Vic ....

60 days after the birth by father, mother or occupier was the legislation in 1890...possibly still the same in 1902.....and FYI death 15 days :).

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 12 December 15 09:43 GMT (UK) »
It's still 60 days in Victoria

http://www.lawreform.vic.gov.au/content/3-birth-registration

The late Queen Mother's father was fined 7 shillings and sixpence for the late registration of his daughter, and the registration states that she was born at St Paul's Walden in Hertfordshire, where she was christened at All Saints, although the birth was supposed to have taken place in London.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1389435/Her-Majesty-Queen-Elizabeth-the-Queen-Mother.html

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 12 December 15 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Interesting - Electoral rolls show George Edward HEFFERNAN, labourer,  lived at Wright St, Elmore in 1903 - no-one else of that surname listed in the same street.
Judith

Thomas Henry PLANE, trapper and Mary PLANE, hd, still at Wright St, Elmore in 1905 as is George Henry HEFFERNAN.  However electoral rolls are often slow to change addresses etc.

In 1912 Thomas Henry PLANE, labourer is shown at Heathcote - no street names given
Also at Heathcote in 1912 is Harriet Jessmine PLANE.

Judith

Both of these entries are for George Edward HEFFERNAN.

I do find it weird that a HEFFERNAN appears on my great grandfathers birth record and later his mother leaves his father Thomas PLANE and married a HEFFERNAN.

Thomas and Harriet had an ex-nuptial child in 1908.

A George Edward HEFFERNAN and Mary had a child in NZ in 1910. 

I would say that George and Mary went to NZ together.

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 12 December 15 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Interesting - Electoral rolls show George Edward HEFFERNAN, labourer,  lived at Wright St, Elmore in 1903 - no-one else of that surname listed in the same street.
Judith

Thomas Henry PLANE, trapper and Mary PLANE, hd, still at Wright St, Elmore in 1905 as is George Henry HEFFERNAN.  However electoral rolls are often slow to change addresses etc.

Hmmmmmmm not sure who a George Henry HEFFERNAN is?

In 1912 Thomas Henry PLANE, labourer is shown at Heathcote - no street names given
Also at Heathcote in 1912 is Harriet Jessmine PLANE.

Judith

Both of these entries are for George Edward HEFFERNAN.

I do find it weird that a HEFFERNAN appears on my great grandfathers birth record and later his mother leaves his father Thomas PLANE and married a HEFFERNAN.

Thomas and Harriet had an ex-nuptial child in 1908.

A George Edward HEFFERNAN and Mary had a child in NZ in 1910. 

I would say that George and Mary went to NZ together.

Debra  :D

I have found no shipping record for either of them coming to NZ. Really dont know i they came together or seperately.

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 12 December 15 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Debra - have amended original re the electoral roll at Elmore for Mr HEFFERNAN.  Shows that one should not try and do genealogy while cooking!! ::)

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 12 December 15 23:32 GMT (UK) »
It is not unusual in the shipping records 1890s - WWI  between NZ and the eastern seaboard states of Australia for the passengers names to be simply Mr and Mrs SURNAME and x children....  :) afterall, in the 1890s it had been far more likely that NZ would be a foundation state rather than Western Australia....  :)  The Australian Constitution made provision for NZ  :)

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 12 December 15 23:58 GMT (UK) »
 
Thanks, Debra - have amended original re the electoral roll at Elmore for Mr HEFFERNAN.  Shows that one should not try and do genealogy while cooking!! ::)

Judith

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Re: Help please, Australia birth 1902
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 12 December 15 23:59 GMT (UK) »
It is not unusual in the shipping records 1890s - WWI  between NZ and the eastern seaboard states of Australia for the passengers names to be simply Mr and Mrs SURNAME and x children....  :) afterall, in the 1890s it had been far more likely that NZ would be a foundation state rather than Western Australia....  :)  The Australian Constitution made provision for NZ  :)

Cheers,  JM

Thanks, will definitely have another go :)