Help please, Australia birth 1902 Edward George Kitchener PLANE

[kellymasters]

Hi, I have a copy of a birth cert for my great grandfather, and i am wanting to know what an occupier or other witness would be? Thank you

[majm]

Hi there,

Which state please?

I think you may find that occupier is similar in meaning to say "head of household",  but if you are referring to a NSW birth certificate, then are you looking at the rank/profession/occupation of the child's parent/s or are you looking at the section with the heading 'Witness' .... and then there's 3 options .... (1) is often the name of the doctor   (2) is often the name of the midwife  and (3) is often a witness to the birth who does not have formal qualifications .... for example the occupier of the residence where the baby was born....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574209.0

Cheers,  JM

[kellymasters]

Hi there,

Which state please?

I think you may find that occupier is similar in meaning to say "head of household",  but if you are referring to a NSW birth certificate, then are you looking at the rank/profession/occupation of the child's parent/s or are you looking at the section with the heading 'Witness' .... and then there's 3 options .... (1) is often the name of the doctor   (2) is often the name of the midwife  and (3) is often a witness to the birth who does not have formal qualifications .... for example the occupier of the residence where the baby was born....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574209.0

Cheers,  JM

Okay, thanks .....so in your opinion what do you think the occupier would have been in this birth?

[kellymasters]

Hi there,

Which state please?

I think you may find that occupier is similar in meaning to say "head of household",  but if you are referring to a NSW birth certificate, then are you looking at the rank/profession/occupation of the child's parent/s or are you looking at the section with the heading 'Witness' .... and then there's 3 options .... (1) is often the name of the doctor   (2) is often the name of the midwife  and (3) is often a witness to the birth who does not have formal qualifications .... for example the occupier of the residence where the baby was born....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574209.0

Cheers,  JM

Sorry Victoria

[sparrett]

kellymasters,
Which of the births on the page is your great grandfather?
PLANE?
Sue

[Wiggy]

Didn't OP say Plane - top one on page?     See bottom reply#2   - very small! 

If you are talking about the word 'occupier' at the head of the column, then as JM says the occupier of the residence. 

I can't see the word written anywhere else on that document, but I could be missing something.

Wiggy

[kellymasters]

kellymasters,
Which of the births on the page is your great grandfather?
Sue

Sorry, was in a rush to post,

Edward George Kitchener PLANE

[kellymasters]

Didn't OP say Plane - top one on page? 

If you are talking about the word 'occupier' at the head of the column, then as JM says the occupier of the residence. 

I can't see the word written anywhere else on that document, but I could be missing something.

Wiggy

Mrs HEFFERNAN? This is the main name I am questioning. It seems that the mother Mary later left Australia and came to NZ and married a George Edward HEFFERNAN. I am confused why there is a HEFFERNAN at this birth??

[majm]

Mrs Heffernan is the name of the second person who assisted with the birth.  She is either the Occupier or simply another witness.    There was no Accoucheur,  Mrs Stokes was the Nurse, and Mrs Heffernan was the "Occupier or other Witnesses".

ADD

Mrs Heffernan does not need to be related to the family.  She may have been a neighbour.  Womenfolk who had had their own children often would assist in the delivery of the babies in their neighbourhood.   Menfolk were banished      I notice that the baby was 'not present' when the birth was being registered.  The likely reason for there being two names mentioned for witnesses would be to support each other if any question arose about the birth.


Cheers JM