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Help with Burial Records
« on: Friday 11 December 15 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
My GGGF was Richard Beckwith, born 1829 in Kirk Hammerton and died 1893 Manchester. His wife was Jane who died in 1903, also in Manchester. I have been unable to trace the burials of either of these two people and would really appreciate any help in this matter.
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Paul

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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 December 15 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Was Richard a brass finisher and did two of his children marry at St Thomas' Ardwick Manchester? Also one at St Stephens?

William Reeks 24, Porter, Bachelor, Audenshaw m Elizabeth Ann Beckwith 21, Spinster, Audenshaw 27 Feb 1876 St Stephen, Audenshaw,
William's father  Mark Reeks, Gamekeeper
Elizabeth's father - Richard Beckwith, Brass finisher
Witnesses: James Sidebotham; Joseph Sellers

Thomas Core Beckwith 24, Fitter, Bachelor, 31 Brydon St. m Cassandra Heron  22, Spinster, 14 Victoria St., Marshall St. 25 Oct 1884 St Thomas, Ardwick,
Thomas's father: Richard Beckwith, Brass Finisher
Cassandra's Father: Thomas Heron, Millwright
Witnesses - John Charles Heron; Betsy Beckwith

Robert Oswald Andrews - 28, Clerk, Bachelor, of 5 Paddock St. m Betsy Beckwith - 26, Spinster, same address 10 Nov 1888 St Thomas, Ardwick,
Robert's father - William Andrews, Deceased, Engineer
Betsy's father - Richard Beckwith, Brass Finisher
Witnesses: Osborne Davies; Sarah Beckwith
Rigby-Lathom, Freckleton,
Singleton-Fylde
Moss-Rufford
Johnson-Tarleton
Hull-Tarleton, Fylde
French-Abram,Rainford
Blake-Upton in Cheshire
Bolas-Shropshire
Butler- Greenhalgh, Lancs
Harrison - Garstang, Lancs

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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 December 15 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
That's my family and I have those records. I just cannot find the burial records, cemetery etc.
Paul

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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 December 15 16:22 GMT (UK) »
I think GrannyM is pointing out churches where it would be worth accessing the burial records.

I see in 1891 RG12; Piece: 3238; Folio: 91; Page: 20 Richard is living at 5, St Clements Place.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 December 15 16:31 GMT (UK) »
I can't see anything on Ancestry - Lancashire or Manchester burials - nor is there an entry on the website Manchester Burials.  Nothing on Genes Reunited Manchester Burial records.

1891 - they are living at 5 St Clement's Place - N W Manchester
1901 - Jane is living with her daughter in Nelson Street - N W Manchester

My assumption would be that they are buried or even cremated within the area of N W Manchester.  Manchester City Council might be your best bet, but I think you might have to have definite dates of death.



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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 December 15 16:35 GMT (UK) »
The Manchester & Lancashire FHS have information about burial grounds & where burial records may be.
http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/BurialGrounds-Mar18-1.pdf

Sorry - just noticed this probably duplicates your GR information BumbleB.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 December 15 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Manchester City Council give the following cemeteries which would have been open in 1893:

Manchester General, Philips Park, Southern.  Gorton and Blackley didn't open until later.  Ardwick and Cheetham Hill are on FindMyPast - so that rules them out.  Mancehster Crematorium records were destroyed in the 1940 blitz.  There are some memorials on Manchester and Lancashire FHS - nothing for Beckwith. 

Non-conformists  :-\

Manchester City Council website is very useful and informative.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: Help with Burial Records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 December 15 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks All,
Do you know when did the cremation of the deceased started in England?
Thanks,

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 December 15 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Manchester Crematorium opened in 1892 - the second in England.  Cremation was illegal, in England, prior to 1885.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY