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Suetterlin expert help please.
« on: Tuesday 08 December 15 15:13 GMT (UK) »
I'd be grateful for a second opinion on the following bits from the attached.  I read them as:

Box 1 Johann Otto Schober
Box 2 Zollner (customs official)
Box 4 Wien (Vienna) St Christof

Thank you

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Re: Suetterlin expert help please.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 December 15 03:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi MaxD,

Noticed that you haven't received any help so I thought I would try.

I'm no expert but have researched German records for my own family tree.

Here are my thoughts:

Box 1 Johann Otto Schober
Box 2 Zollner (customs official)
Box 4 Wien (Vienna) St Elisabeth  :-\

The reason I say "Elisabeth" is that it looks like "Elisabeth" from my family documents. (the capital E looks funny as do many old German letters)

There is a St Elisabeth in Wien which is a hospital established in 1709
www.elisabethinen-wien.at/
If the link doesn't work just Google St Elisabeth Wien.

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Re: Suetterlin expert help please.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 December 15 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much indeed Jack-a-Lyn.  I'm glad you agree with Zollner and your reading of the last bit as St Elisabeth is I'm sure right now I look at it again (with your guidance!).  The capital E and the last two letters are totally clear now.  I was not really happy with my own St Christoph because I couldn't find a district of that name in Vienna so your second opinion is most welcome.

Thanks again

maxD 

I'll check the remaining entries in the register and perhaps post the queries also in due course.
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Suetterlin expert help please.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 December 15 10:36 GMT (UK) »
Glad I could help :)


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Re: Suetterlin expert help please.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 December 15 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Would anyone (Jack-a-Lyn?) like to venture a stab at the final column on the attached?  The heading is "Remarks or details of residence"
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 07:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi MaxD

Have had a go at the last column.

Suggestion only          Berlin, Hotel Viktoria      :-\

Could be completely wrong. Just trying to compare letters of the words with resources I have. There is a Hotel Victoria in Berlin (dates correspond with your document).

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Re: Suetterlin expert help please.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestion Jack-a-Lyn. I am using Suetterlinschrift.de.  and I'm not sure, particularly about the first letter of the middle word.  Not really important in the great scheme of things though so thanks anyway.  Frohe Weihnachten!

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 December 15 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

That letter also stumped me.  Thought at first it was a G but didn't seem to fit with the other letters (ie gotel) but it also looked like a lower case h.

English is my only language so working out old German while doing family history has been a challenge and Rootschat has been very helpful. I have had help from wonderful people much more experienced than me on this forum.
Family Search has good resources and I also use "If I Can You Can Decipher Germanic Records" by Edna M Bentz and "German English Genealogical Dictionary" by Ernest Thode.

Good luck with your research

Jack-a-lyn