Manchester Vernon / Portner / Cohen

[cohenvernonportner]

Is there anywhere I could find a picture? of either the people or the graves stones?

[JustinL]

They are the death dates as recorded in the MDCS database.

The only way to confirm that this couple are yours is to take the plunge and buy some credits.

[JustinL]

It is possible that the detailed record includes photos.

I'm hoping it does, so that we can determine the full Hebrew names of the deceased.

[cohenvernonportner]

I was given this earlier in this topic
Death Sep 1948 Heywood 10c 320  / Joseph J Cohen ( 49y at death )

Which seems correct but the Betsy death 2 years later cannot be correct unless it was another child we did not know about as the mother betsy lived longer than the 40's

[cohenvernonportner]

Here is a possible Portner/Portnoy connection
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/0c1cf0b6-a6b2-468d-9a9d-7686ff6ba863

[JustinL]

The death record describes Joseph Jacob Cohen as the husband of:

Bessie Cohen, 32 Wensley Road, Kersal, Salford 7

who died on Bury New Road in Prestwich on 4 Aug 1948.

Wensley Road is not too far from 3 Richmond Avenue, where Reuben and Annie Portner died.

[cohenvernonportner]

I was told J.Cohen died young but was led to believe Betsy was around for a long time, a long time after he had passed anyhow.
Yet these records would show she would have died a month before him and I am wondering why there are two different addresses for them if they were married.Did they split up?

Do we have any idea why they both died so young?

Thank you for your help

[cohenvernonportner]

New information on the vernon side is that they may have been previously known as valenskys

[JustinL]

The death record for JJC merely reports that he did not die at home. He died while on Bury New Road. Maybe he simply had a heart attack, or was hit by a car. It is hardly a surprise that someone who died that young, did not die at home. My mother's father died of a heart attack at the same age on the platform at St. Alban's rail station.

Betsy Portner's birth was registered in Q2 1902. Here are two possible deaths for her:

Bessie Cohen, bom ? Mar 1902, died Q3 1970 (death registered in Bury)
Bessie Cohen, born 18 Jan 1902, died Q1 1981 (death registered in Manchester)

Either one is a very long time after JJC's death.