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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #18 on: Monday 07 December 15 13:45 GMT (UK) »
I found this record in one of databases on JewishGen.

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #19 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:00 GMT (UK) »
I found this record in one of databases on JewishGen.

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thank you for this it gives me some more names to look at

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #20 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Rue(BEN)jamin ?????

Recorded as Benjamin coz known as Ben ?

Similar to Jacob/Jack

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #21 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Rue(BEN)jamin ?????

Recorded as Benjamin coz known as Ben ?

Similar to Jacob/Jack

Ray

No wonder I could not find him! He had changed his name.
So I am looking for family of Ben Portner and Hillel Cohen


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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #22 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ray,

I was also wondering whether Rueben P. with the daughter Betsy was 'our man'. Her age and his occupation match. And Rueben did not sign his own name on the census return.

I would speculate that Portner was an Anglicisation of the Russian surname PORTNOY, which means tailor in Russian (= kravitz in Polish) and was documented in many places throughout the Jewish Pale of Settlement including Vilnius.

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #23 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:23 GMT (UK) »
I see that the death of a 70-year-old Reuben Portner was registered in Salford in Q4 1940.


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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #24 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ray,

I was also wondering whether Rueben P. with the daughter Betsy was 'our man'. Her age and his occupation match. And Rueben did not sign his own name on the census return.

I would speculate that Portner was an Anglicisation of the Russian surname PORTNOY, which means tailor in Russian (= kravitz in Polish) and was documented in many places throughout the Jewish Pale of Settlement including Vilnius.

Justin


Great information
Appreciated
I want to research this family tree further

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #25 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ray,

I was also wondering whether Rueben P. with the daughter Betsy was 'our man'. Her age and his occupation match. And Rueben did not sign his own name on the census return.

I would speculate that Portner was an Anglicisation of the Russian surname PORTNOY, which means tailor in Russian (= kravitz in Polish) and was documented in many places throughout the Jewish Pale of Settlement including Vilnius.



Justin






So betsy could have also been known as peshe/pesha portner or pesha portnoy?

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Re: Manchester Vernon/portner/cohen
« Reply #26 on: Monday 07 December 15 14:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ray,

I was also wondering whether Rueben P. with the daughter Betsy was 'our man'. Her age and his occupation match. And Rueben did not sign his own name on the census return.

I would speculate that Portner was an Anglicisation of the Russian surname PORTNOY, which means tailor in Russian (= kravitz in Polish) and was documented in many places throughout the Jewish Pale of Settlement including Vilnius.



Justin






So betsy could have also been known as peshe/pesha portner or pesha portnoy?




I have found BEN portner married anna -anna portner was born approx 1869