Walter Frederick ENGLAND

[Janette]

I am hoping to hear from the Rotorua council about how to find birth records between 1900 and 1930.  Several of Walter F and Lucy's children were born there.  I am hoping to find Winifred listed.

I need to get this clarified otherwise I shall have her in the wrong place on the family tree.

Doesn't New Zealand have a national base for all the births, marriages and deaths in the country?

Those of you who do research in the UK will know that we have the General Register Office which has all the BMD records for England and Wales.  Scotland and Ireland have their own GROs.

The Rotorua Council has nothing to do with Birth ,Deaths or Marriages all BDM's are registered in Wellington with the Dept. of Internal Affairs

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/

Cheers Janette

[Girl Guide]

Oh that's a bit of a stumper Janette.

So how can I find the birth records of Winifred, Thelma, Frederick and Leslie?  The first three are in Rotorua and the last one in Te Kuiti.

The web link that you give is the one I have been using and it only shows Lucy, James and Walter plus a stillbirth.

[Janette]

If you are using information from an online tree this is where things might have gone wrong as folk often do not check their information before posting it.
If the Frederick you refer to is the one buried in Waikumete he was 49 when he died in 1971 so has a birth year of C 1922,we know from the stillbirth that his parents were still producing in the 1920's.
Births after today's date 100 years ago can only be found on the birth fiche held in libraries and FH places

Cheers Janette

[minniehaha]

To add to Janette's post.

This from the NZ BDM website-


You can search for:
Births that occurred at least 100 years ago
Stillbirths if registered at least 50 years ago.


Minniehaha.

[Girl Guide]

Kiwi

Interesting point.  The burial record I have been given shows death date of May 1976 age 64.  However on consulting the descendants list I have the death as March 1976 with a birth in August 1911.

Hhmm only two William Arthur Bishops in the deaths between 1970 and 1990.  Nothing between 1950 and 1970.

1976/35269   Bishop   William Arthur   3/8/1911   64Y   
1977/29757   Bishop   William Arthur   9/5/1883   93Y

Any thoughts anyone?

[minniehaha]

The reason I offered to do that death notice look up was to hopefully prove one way or the other as to whether or not that William Arthur Bishop was the husband of Lucy........

Minniehaha.

[Janette]

Looking at the Waikumete cemetery record for William Arthur Bishop his occupation is given as "invalid" maybe Lucy was living apart from him and called herself a widow which was not unheard of in those days

Cheers Janette

[Girl Guide]

Hmm so maybe the March bit was a typing error?

By the way do you not have local registry offices where you can register your child's birth, get married there and register a death?

I've been to my local one in Bristol many times and obtained historical certificates relating to a family I was researching that had links to Bristol.

The local register offices would then, every quarter I think, send off copies of all the BMDs that had been registered to the national GRO for their records.

[minniehaha]

Hi Girl Guide,

May I suggest that you have another look at the NZ BDM website. There is much information to be gleaned from this as to how our registration system works........


Minniehaha.