Walter Frederick ENGLAND

[Girl Guide]

Yes Janette, I went through all the pages one at a time checking whether I had copied the information given. I must have missed that particular one.

I am now getting down to the stage where I shall be at the generation who may well still be alive and therefore information about them cannot be put on the thread.

I'll have another careful check again through all these pages and then decide whether I need any more info or whether it can be regarded as completed. 

How do you indicate that you have received all the information that you require?

[Girl Guide]

I thought people might like to see one of the very few photos I have of Walter and his wife Eva Emma.
Ooo a good bit larger than I thought it was going to be!!

[Girl Guide]

Can anyone have a look and see if they can find birth records for the below children please?

Winifred ENGLAND born Rotorua? 1916

Thelma ENGLAND born Rotorua 1919

Frederick ENGLAND born Rotorua 1922

Leslie ENGLAND born Te Kuiti 1923

The parents of all the above are Walter Frederick and Lucy Alice ENGLAND (nee SHAW)

I don't really want to go to the expense of ordering printouts if you wonderful people can find them for me.  I just wish to confirm the births.

I found the birth records of the other three Lucy, Walter and James plus one stillbirth.

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello...

Those births happened less than 100 years ago so won't appear on the BDM NZ website.

The BDM NZ Births microfiche (1840-ish to 1990) can be looked up at the library but will only show the child's name(s) and surname and the place of registration. You already seem to have that information.

If you ever decide to get birth certificates you can order printouts of them from the "Non-Historical" section of the BDM NZ website.

Regards
Beg

[Girl Guide]

Thank you for that Beg.  I guess that the fact that all four of them are already dead doesn't count.

I did look at the non-historical BMD site but in order to obtain any certificates I would need to register for a Real Me account.  I live in the UK so don't know whether I would qualify for this account. 

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hi again...

Reasonably sure that you only need a RealMe ID if you're using the online ordering service.

You can still just order over the phone (BDM NZ +64 4 463 9362) with the birth details (surname, name, year and folio number).

And, of course, your debit/credit card number :-)

Order a printout @ $20.40 and ask for delivery by both email and normal mail.

The certificate @ $26.50 is just a transcription of the register whereas the printout is a scan of the register.

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The folio number is found on the BDM NZ microfiche held at most NZ libraries.

It's only a five minute job to look up the fiche so if you decide to purchase some printouts let us know and some kind soul will do a fiche lookup.

As you're overseas there's even a pretty good chance you can just phone BDM NZ with the names and years. No need for the folio number as every B, D and M from 1840 onwards is on their computer. Wouldn't take them a moment to find the relevant entry.

Regards
Beg

[Girl Guide]

Hi Beg

Many thanks for your helpful information.  All I really wanted was to confirm that the four I mentioned have a mother's maiden name of SHAW.  Father is Walter Frederick.  Not sure what information appears on your non-historical BMDs.

In the UK we don't make any distinction between historical and non-historical.  We can order certificates from either the General Register Office or the register office local to the birth, marriage or death.

[Janette]

Hi ,

you could try getting the printouts of their death registrations,this is what you could expect to find on them

https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/datacollected/death.aspx

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

A photo of Leslie England's plaque emailed

Cheers Janette