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Offline silverleaf79

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Shropshire placenames
« on: Monday 30 November 15 12:23 GMT (UK) »
These are from an 1861 census, with the birthplaces of people who I hope are my great-great-grandfather and his parents.

I have him born in Shrewsbury in about 1842.

As usual I searched for these places on Google to see if they are anywhere near Shrewsbury but I can't find them at all, which I guess means they have either been written down wrong, or transcribed wrong, or both.

Here's how they are transcribed on Ancestry:
Llanabludwin
Granabena
Travercula

None of these places seem to exist.

Anyone have any ideas what they might be? I've attached a screenshot of the towns o the census form. Thanks!
Roberts Jowle Wigfield Roddis

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 November 15 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Might the first one be Llanyblodwel ??

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 November 15 12:40 GMT (UK) »
That was my thought as wall, but we are so close to the border with Montgomeryshire that the other two may be across the border

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 November 15 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Might the first one be Llanyblodwel ??

That looks a good candidate, thank you!
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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 November 15 12:43 GMT (UK) »
That was my thought as wall, but we are so close to the border with Montgomeryshire that the other two may be across the border

Mike

Yes, I was wondering if the enumerator had trouble with Welsh place names.
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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 November 15 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Checking in 1851 were their birthplaces listed as Oswestry?? The family are listed as Robert and living in Wednesfield with youngest child David born there

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 November 15 13:34 GMT (UK) »
I am thinking the last two are Welsh names of two words  seperated by a y or a yn but I am still puzzled  :)

Mike

Added,   and ending in er.  rather than.  a

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 November 15 14:04 GMT (UK) »
How about

TREFERCLAWDD, a township in the parish of Oswestry, county Salop, 2 miles S.W. of Oswestry."

for the 3rd?

Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: Shropshire placenames
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 December 15 06:24 GMT (UK) »
Checking in 1851 were their birthplaces listed as Oswestry?? The family are listed as Robert and living in Wednesfield with youngest child David born there

Yes, that's the family.

I'm trying to work out if the younger John ROBERTS is my great-great grandfather, but it's such a common name (especially in that part of the country) that it's really difficult to find the right one.

Here's what I know about "my" John ROBERTS:
* Born in Shrewsbury in about 1842
* Married Caroline JAMES (sometimes referred to as Catherine) in Dudley, Worcs. in 1865
* Marriage cert shows his father as John ROBERTS, deceased.
* Children Agnes (1866), John (1869), Eliza (1871), Daniel George (1874) (my great grandfather), Mary A (1880) all born in Oldbury, Worcs.
* Living in Rowley Regis, Staffs. in 1871, and Oldbury, Worcs. in 1881.

Obviously there are several John ROBERTSs born in Shrewsbury around that time, and I'm struggling to figure out which is mine.
Roberts Jowle Wigfield Roddis