WILLIAMS/CRIPPS/FLETCHER/COOMBE/LEADER - Abingdon area mostly

[DebbieG]

Hi Max - and a very big welcome to Rootschat - who knows we may even turn out to be distant cousins - do you have any dates (even approx would help to pinpoint them) for your lot ?

Debbie

[DebbieG]

Hi again Max - and all the others who have taken an interest in this thread - I have found what I think is your Williams line Max.  If I have it right it goes

Walter born 1883 son of James & Kate

James Williams born 1847 son of James and Martha - nee Brewerton, incidently - if we aren't related through the Williams line we are through the Brewerton one though very distantly.

James who married Martha Brewerton was born in 1816 the son of Thomas & Sarah (nee Welch) - Thomas was a baker and died in 1843 so although I can find him on the 1841 census at the Almshouses I don't know where he was born, I wish I could find out as he may well have been related to my Theodora Payton nee Williams who died in Abingdon in 1812 - I think she may have been his aunt  If you find when you get home there is any info on where Thomas came from I will be over the moon as we are still trying to peice together the assorted Williams lines beofre 1800

All the best

Debbie

[Max_Ick]

Hi Debbie (and anyone else)

Have you seen the book "Illustrated in Abingdon". It contains lots of old photos of Abingdon. Anyway, there are pictures of Williams Butcher's Christmas display with James (If i remember right, I will check when I get home) standing in front. Also picture of Black Bull in Bury Street (another family property). Anyone interested I can probably see if it is still printed.

Max

[Doedoe]

hello
I am a Coombe  whose ancesters  started off in  Torquay Devon and eventally settled in Liverpool in 1876, the name Thomas/Tom   also Richard follow down through the years.
Doreen

[DebbieG]

Hi Max

Yes I have a copy of that book - and have often looked at the picture of Williams butchers shop and wondered if there was a connection

Debbie

[mrstucci]

Hi DoeDoe- I have Coombe but just as a middle name- a couple of Thomas' that lived in London and an Elizabeth Coombe Williams Leader who was born in Bampton but died in Berkshire. Any connection? Judy

[Doedoe]

hello Judy
cant think of any at the moment   but will  see what I have got and if any connection will get back to you   good luck
Doreen

[mrstucci]

Thanks and good luck to you too! Judy

[Max_Ick]

If anyone is interested, my wife has emailed me a copy of the original photo of James Williams' Christmas display.  It is clearer than in the book. I tried to attach it to this post but its too big. I would be happy to e mail it to anyone who wants a copy.

Another Williams anecdote for you:
When the Abingdon Gaol closed (I don't know the date, does anyone?) the effects were auctioned off.  Williams bought the governor's clock (which was made in Abingdon). It hung in the butchers shop in Abingdon and then in the Steventon Shop, until the Gaol was  restored and turned into a sports centre. The Williams family alive at that time; Gordon, Clive, Derek and Ivor donated the clock and it was hung in the foyer. By the way it is many years since I have been in Abingdon, is the Old Gaol still a sports centre or has it closed?